Author of The Blackout Book and the online course Bloom Where You’re Planted
(March 29, 2020) From the moment lockdowns and serious social distancing efforts began in the United States, the question on everyone’s mind was, “How long will these lockdowns last?”
And it’s not simple impatience. The cost of Covid-19 continues to come as a brutal assault to families across the country. First, there was the money spent preparing for the likelihood of quarantine, and this was followed, for many, by a loss of income. A shocking 3.3 million people had filed for unemployment by last Thursday, something projected less than a week ago and laughed off by many as fear-mongering. The economic ramifications of this virus are not just short-term – they’re long-term too. For preparedness advice specific to this pandemic and the related quarantine and personal economic ramifications, go here.
It’s psychological, too. Right now, we’re in this strange period of purgatory in which the situation isn’t that bad for a lot of people – outside of a few hotspots, we aren’t seeing the virus in our own backyards. But the inability to plan for something next summer, next month – even next week – is tough on people who are accustomed to being able to map out things like vacations, summer activities for the kids, heck, even a night at the movies with our partners. There’s a sense of overall discomfort which can only be described as grief as we miss out on goals, milestones, and the day to day lives we enjoyed just a couple of short weeks ago.
We want this to end. Now.
And if we can’t have that, we want to know when. When will this limbo known as lockdown be over?
Unfortunately, we’re just getting started.
A few weeks ago, I wrote about when the lockdowns and shelter in place orders would be handed down in the United States, based on the patterns we were seeing in China and in Italy. It turned out to be extremely accurate, so we can use the same general idea of using patterns to attempt to predict what happens next.
Now, keep in mind, there are all sorts of variables. I hate making “predictions because of this. These aren’t “predictions” in a crystal ball kind of way. This is just an analysis of what has already happened and how a pattern is developing. So, my disclaimer is, given the vast array of variables, some of which we’ve probably never even considered, these dates may be entirely wrong. But right now, patterns are all we have to give us an idea of what to expect.
Some of the variables that could come into play are the severity of the lockdown, the population density of the infection hotspots, a surge of civil unrest, a concurrent disaster, and/or the medical systems in the different countries involved. China is a lot more authoritarian than the US and Italy, and they incorporated shocking measures like literally welding people into their apartments.
While things started off rather gently in Italy and the United States, don’t expect it to stay that way.
Italy started off less strictly but has increasingly become tougher on citizens as the cases explode, and we’re seeing harsher measures being instituted across the United States as governors take steps to protect their less-infected states from those fleeing hotspots.
Expect this to continue up to and including martial law if people don’t cooperate with social distancing measures. I’m not saying that this is a good thing or a bad thing – I’m just pointing out that this is reality. If you don’t believe it, read this article about how the cops in Rhode Island are teaming up with the National Guard to go door to door looking for New Yorkers who have fled the city. Right here in the United States of America, boys and girls.
Don’t delude yourself into thinking we’re protected by the Constitution right now. While that should always be the case, know that right now, we’re not.
For the purposes of this article, here are some definitions that I’m using.
- Lockdown: Periods of time with the restriction of movement, closure of businesses, quarantines, and curfews mandated by federal or local governments with varying degrees of enforcement,
- Peak: The plateau in which the number of cases was high somewhat uniformly. Also known as “flattening the curve.”
- Spike: A brief period during which the number of cases skyrocketed, then returned to the peak.
- Decline: The period of time when the number of new cases began to drop steadily from the peak period.
The charts below are all from Worldometer and show the new cases diagnosed in each country.
I’m not a scientist, a statistician, or a doctor. These are my definitions that I’ll be using throughout the article and I’m sharing them for the purpose of clarity so that we’re all reading from the same songbook.
Here’s how it went down in China.
Keep in mind that I never trusted and still do not trust the numbers coming from China. I’m not basing any of this on their numbers, but on their increases and decreases. If it helps any, I don’t trust the American numbers either. I’m equal opportunity in my distrust.
All we’re looking at here are patterns.
The lockdown of China began on Jan. 22. Within a few days, the lockdown had spread to incorporate millions and millions of people and were quite widespread to some degree or another.
This is Worldometer’s chart for China. The chart begins on Jan. 22, which is not accurate – that was the day that they locked down Wuhan so we know there were a number of cases before that date. But this is the data we have to work with. Again, we’re not focused on the numbers, but on the pattern.
China’s cases hit the plateau that we’re calling a “peak” approximately Jan. 30th. That’s when they hit a plateau that was continued after the peak until cases began to drop off on Feb. 19th. During this time, the cases were being diagnosed hard and fast at a high rate that varied from day to day but stayed in a certain range. This means the peak for China began 8 days after widespread lockdown and lasted for 20 days.
You can see a spike on Feb. 13th and 14th. This can be explained away – at least in part. China began using a different diagnostic method on the 13th that didn’t require the antigen test. It was faster and easier to diagnose patients at that time. There were 15 thousand new cases that day and this is notable. This spike occurred 22 days after the lockdown began. They only used this diagnostic method for 2 days, then returned to their previous methods of diagnosis. At that time, numbers returned generally to the plateau that we’re calling the peak.
Cases began to decline 21 days after the peak began, on Feb. 19th.
65 days after the lockdown began, Wuhan relaxed to the lockdown: people can leave their homes but are not allowed to leave the city. If all goes well, China plans to reopen Wuhan on April 8th which is 77 days after they first locked down Wuhan.
We’ll learn a lot about our own future when we see how it goes in Wuhan a couple of weeks from now.
Here’s the deal with Italy.
Italy began its regional lockdown on Feb. 21st and it quickly expanded to a widespread national lockdown by March 9th. (source for dates) As I write this, Italy is at day 20 of its lockdown
In the chart below, it appears that Italy began its peak around March 18th, which is 9 days after widespread lockdowns began.
If the same pattern as China holds true, infections will decline but still be in peak until April 20th.
Italy could begin to relax its lockdown as of May 13th. If China does indeed completely lift its lockdown on Day 77 and this works well, then the end of Italy’s lockdown could be June 6th.
Again, there are many variables. For example, on March 28th in Italy (yesterday at the time of writing), tensions arose in Italy as the health emergency became a social emergency. People broke the shelter in place orders, threatening to storm supermarkets because they’ve run out of food. Cries for revolution arose throughout social media and many people have said they will not remain at home, and that they’re out of food and basic necessities.
This could, unfortunately, result in a much longer period of infection as people gather in crowds to protest. It could even result in a spike for Italy around March 31-April 1 that would be similar to China’s spike, albeit for a different reason.
What about the US?
First things first – this is not going to be over in two weeks. If the country reopened again next week or the week after while cases are still climbing, everything we’ve done from this point on will have been in vain. We’re in this social distancing business for quite a while if we want it to work.
Our first major lockdowns began on March 19th. Thirty-three states have closed down non-essential businesses or mandated some type of lockdown since that time.
If we base our timing on the pattern of China, the peak would have begun yesterday, March 28th. We should begin to see the curve flattening out on charts within the next few days.
This peak would last through about April 30th and we could see our worst days on April 10th and 11th, depending on whether we have some kind of unusual variables like both China and Italy have had.
On May 23rd, we could see the lockdowns become more relaxed, and if they go 77 days like Wuhan, then the lockdowns would end on June 6th.
It’s important to note that we still don’t know what the aftermath of the lockdown looks like in China. It could end up that they’ll put another lockdown in place if infections begin to reoccur at a high rate. Personally, I don’t plan to rush out to a crowded mall the moment lockdowns are lifted. I want to wait and see what happens after a week or so first.
To provide an example, several hundred movie theaters in China outside the epicenter of the outbreak reopened on March 23rd, then were abruptly ordered to close on March 27th without further explanation.
The reopening of the United States could also be a start-and-stop process as scientists learn more about Covid-19.
This isn’t a short term event. It’s going to get worse.
I’m not the only person who thinks these measures could last for quite some time. According to Michael Snyder, it will be ongoing and we too could expect to see some civil unrest before this is over.
Of course many Americans are already losing patience and are quite eager to get back to work.
If the “shelter-in-place” orders stretch on for months, it is probably inevitable that we will see civil unrest and rioting like we are witnessing in China right now.
Unfortunately, it appears that vast sections of the country will remain shut down for the foreseeable future. (source)
As in China, there are parts of the country that are far less affected than places like New York City and New Orleans. But every single state has diagnosed Covid within its boundaries and none of the country is unscathed by the measures being undertaken to combat the spread.
And despite the steps that Americans have taken to slow this down, we have the unfortunate distinction of surpassing China as the epicenter of the pandemic. On Thursday, March 26th, 17,224 new cases were diagnosed here and on Friday, there were 19,452 new cases.
Unfortunately, the number of new cases is still climbing. We have not seen the worst of this situation yet. People should be prepared for anything from more stringent lockdowns, supply chain interruptions, and potentially even civil unrest in some areas as the situation drags on.
I know these dates and numbers are probably not what you want to hear. It’s only been ten days and for many, it’s practically unimaginable to live like this for 2 more months, stretching into June. The effect on the economy alone is mindblowing, not to mention the feelings of uncertainty, unrest, and even fear that many people are experiencing.
But if you’re anything like me, you’d rather go into this unknown territory facing reality instead of waiting and wondering.
Daisy Luther writes about current events, preparedness, frugality, voluntaryism, and the pursuit of liberty on her website, The Organic Prepper. She is widely republished across alternative media and she curates all the most important news links on her aggregate site, PreppersDailyNews.com. Daisy is the best-selling author of 4 books and runs a small digital publishing company. You can find her on Facebook, Pinterest, and Twitter.
I continue to appreciate all the work you put into these articles. Thank you Daisy. I thought maybe we’d have until early May with a lot of variables of course, but it looks like I may need to stock up a few more things while I still have a chance. I’m in upstate NY and it is starting to hit VERY close to home. My main question is, do you think the oncoming better weather could shorten the duration here (unlike China who was dealing with winter mostly)? I do realize that there will most likely be a second and third wave when Fall comes back around.
Hi, Rain – thanks for the kind words.
If it has seasonality the onset of warm weather could definitely help. We don’t know yet if this is the case because the virus is so new. Before they loosen up restrictions, we’re going to have to see that plateau drop off and keep dropping for a while.
if it does have seasonality, then won’t it be steadily increasing in severity in the southern hemisphere? Possibly cyclical just like out cold and flu season.
That’s my guess – so it won’t just “go away.” And it’s even more likely then that we’ll see a bad second wave. Also, we don’t have any evidence that it’s seasonal. It may not be.
Polio’s duration did not shorten in the summer. Best each of us can do is to shelter-in-place for the good of the nation. Pick up the phone, write a letter, Skype/teleconference, email etc. to be social from a distance. It isn’t going to hurt any of us to not meet a friend at the park or go to church. But it could kill any one of us.
I check on my elderly parents – my sibling and I take turns going to the house. We’ll pick up perishables for them when needed. Others Skype and/or call them as well as other elderly relatives to ease their social isolation.
I plan to be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
Agreed – we have picked up one item from the store in the past week and only one of us went in. We do take a walk with the dogs every day, but we stay away from other people. I was very relieved when my daughter’s workplace closed – I’m happy to help her with bills to keep her safely at home.
its not fucking feasible live life like this you people are clearly ignorant
I appreciate your articles too. I feel that what you write is what has helped me prepare for this so much better. I’ve been reading your blog for several years. Sometimes I would get so stressed reading it. I would stop for a little while. Then come back. Now I look everyday to see what you have written or what guest posts you have. You are an excellent writer. Thank-you for what you do. Scaring me a little has prepared me for today. Of course there is a place for relaxation too. I know you realize that. Glad you were able to travel before all this. I’m relaxing with my garden these days. I hope to travel again someday.
Rain, “[t]he short answer is that while we may expect modest declines in the contagiousness of SARS-CoV-2 in warmer, wetter weather and perhaps with the closing of schools in temperate regions of the Northern Hemisphere, it is not reasonable to expect these declines alone to slow transmission enough to make a big dent.” See: https://ccdd.hsph.harvard.edu/will-covid-19-go-away-on-its-own-in-warmer-weather/ So, unfortunately, as the expert epidemiologist at Harvard who wrote that article sees it, COVID-19 will continue to spread and be a big problem for us even in the warmer months 🙁
Warm weather in the past never slowed SARS 1
Thanks for the article link.
I think it’s so ironic that no one but the MSM believes the Chineses Government numbers, but we keep reporting them as if they are numbers to base ANY decision on. China is for the most part not a first world nation when it comes to healthcare, they have too many people and they really don’t care if millions die.
The Italian numbers are skewed because the epicenter of their initial outbreaks were in an area heavily populated by Chinese nationals that had unfettered travel back and forth.
Whether it’s two weeks or more, we are able to mobilize our healthcare quicker than any other country.
And further, who is to honestly say “The US has passed China?” Maybe, maybe not. Not sure what the end game is besides world domination, but there are two camps trying to control the narrative, and if Communist Red China lies and says what they did worked, it is a point for them. You can believe they will hold the US up as an example that their Marxist ideology and dictatorial methods are superior. China is going to spin this for China, any help they offer is just P.R. (Public Relations/ People’s Republic, take your pick!)
Indeed let’s at least base some projections on numbers that are not lies, no matter why they may fit our setting. Got to start with facts, not lies.
Yep, we have the capability to mobilize massive healthcare responses. We didn’t, of course, but we had the capacity to. Drumpf shut down such a proactive response even when his daily briefing pointed out this threat. That’s because he is so much smarter than all the experts put together. And a couple of years ago, he shut down the Pandemic Response System despite recent experiences with SARS, MERS, Ebola, etc. Of course, all of his actions are clearly understandable, because profit is more important than public health, and we especially don’t want to jeopardize the hotel industry.
We would in any case be likely to suffer enormously from this pandemic. That was just made far worse by our government’s failure to deal timely with the obvious impending crisis and then their obviously inept responses after allowing this to grow out of control. And the economic fallout will be a huge burden on the working class, because our wonderful leaders are going, once again, to ensure that we working class folks pay for all the potential losses in major industries so those stockholders keep their profits flowing and the corporate execs continue to receive unjustifiable salaries and bonuses. And the Republigoons keep insisting that they believe in Capitalism. Except when the rich might suffer a capitalistic penalty. While the Dumbocrats can’t put together a coherent platform with which to address our declining fortunes and the exponentiation of misery among our population. I’m planning on moving somewhere where life is more satisfying. I just haven’t found a way to get to a better planet.
Ultra Skeptic, my sentiments exactly! When you get those travel arrangements figured out, please email me. I’m ready.
How are we supposed to believe our OWN crooked government/CDC?? They rammed through an economy destroying bill using a conveniently timed probably engineered bioweapon, for which our vaunted CDC, FEMA, and healthcare system were shockingly unprepared. Then they hamstring us with these lockdowns that are politically selective, and one size fits all, and after the horse is out of the barn. NYC is a ghost town, so where did they go?? They release criminals and lock up quarantine scofflaws? Chinese agents going around methodically touching rows of computers in stores? After we are all bankrupt watch the vultures swoop in and buy America at firesale prices…all courtesy of Our Leaders who are managing this “crisis”.
I live in a very rural part of Central Kentucky. We had the first confirmed case of Covid-19 at the regional hospital (20 miles from the farm) yesterday, and the same county has a 2nd case somewhere else. It’s here.
I’m as prepared as I can possibly be, but unfortunately my wife works in an essential industry and has to continue to go to work. Neither of us is happy about that, but we’re taking the necessary precautions and hope to remain infection free.
I’ve never thought that any lockdown or social distancing would be of short duration (15 days is really laughable), and without a nationwide lockdown more serious than even NYS has imposed, our social distancing efforts may slow the rate of infection but not turn it downward any time soon. There are too many people who are not participating, and one hotspot can spread to other areas, which in turn will spread it back to the previous hotspot once they come off of lockdown. The US is STILL not being serious enough to flatten the curve, let alone bend it down. JMO. I guess we’ll know more by watching Italy.
For example, if NYS and its moderate lockdown manages to bend the curve down next week, other cities on the verge of breaking out (LA, Chicago, Detroit, Dallas, Miami, N.O.) are all prepared to step in and take up the virus slack.
Covid-19 is not the flu as some are saying. What it is is viral pneumonia, which is why we are running out of ventilators, not beds.
Daisy, you’re one of 3 sources that I use that I consider reliable, and I wanted you to know that your efforts are very much appreciated. Keep up the good work. I’ll raise a Quarantini to you this afternoon.
This hasn’t been too bad for us. We’re retired and do t go too much anyway. I did go to the post office to pick up the mail and the grocery store after staying home for 2-weeks. Now, I’m on the 2nd round of 2-weeks.
I know that people that like to go, are having a hard time with this, and I’m sorry for that. The good news is that families can reconnect, and I pray they do.
My niece and her hubby were actually separated for a few months when this happened…He moved out and moved in with one of his brothers. They continued to co-parent their 6 yr. old son. Now that the virus is here it’s brought them back together at least for now. He moved back home with her and their son. He is NOT sleeping with her but on the pull out couch, why? B/C she wanted him to go to marriage counseling and he refused to go, so she’s not happy b/c it’s take 2 to fix their issues and NOT just one of them. However they are together under the same roof which is (in my humble opinion) better than him being away. The kid is happy daddy is back home. SO if nothing else this was positive. Just praying it all works out and he will stay permanently. SO you are right a family did reconnect…How wonderful!!! Be safe you all.
Your estimate figures right along with what I had thought. I was thinking 2, more likely 3, months. I don’t know what people will do. In my neighborhood we have a higher rate of retired. This population is more likely to follow the rules. Then there is the younger population. There are fewer but they are less likely to follow the rules. One just came home sick from Pittsburgh.
What are we doing? Well 2 grandkids live with us. We are getting on with learning and doing what we always do: getting ready for next winter. Greenhouse going, garden beds getting ready and firewood. We play games and watch Disney (from the vault) movies and talk about how important it is to keep a schedule and pay attention.
We will read this article together because it is better to know how deep the forest is and then go through it, then to have no idea if or when it will end.
Thank you so much for all you are doing to help us and encourage us!
People panic when they feel helpless. I’d like to offer the suggestion that we may be able to personally fight this virus if we become infected by creating an “artificial fever” as early-on as possible when we begin to feel ill. Many viruses, including Coronaviruses can only reproduce themselves in hosts within a fairly narrow temperature range. I am prone to colds and often successfully fight them off by putting a heating pad on medium setting over my face one or more times for periods of 15 to 20 minutes. Not pleasant, but if done fairly quickly after realizing you are getting sick it often works well for me. It sure beats getting sicker. Once a “bug” gets hold of me, I get under an electric blanket or pile of blankets and a heating pad. The trick is, the sooner you do it, the better”. I usually do it for several hours, with a Medium setting, so that I get to the point of “sweating it out”. For what it’s worth, I hope this might prove helpful to others.
We do this too. Except we get into a hot Epsom salt bath in a warmed bathroom. Then get under the covers. It works! But you have to be paying attention to catch it right.
I live in Ct under “lockdown”. What a load of cr*p! People are out, police stop NO one and most workers are out, many who are no where near “essential”, BUT the PTB have the sheeple thinking they’re locked in. Right now it’s all psychological with no physical to back it up. I go can freely anywhere. Now is the time we use to top off and keep things topped off before the animal hoard goes totally bonkers
HEY R: I am in the mountains of North Carolina and my town is on a “stay at home” order from the N.C. governors office. They have closed all non essential businesses et. We can’t eat out anywhere and sit down. Drive through ONLY and we are able to go into a restaurant and pick up food and carry out. So that is our order, however otherwise people are going and coming as they please. I haven’t seen ANY Police presence, no National Guard anywhere stopping traffic or doing ANY enforcing. Seems they all put out these rules for the public with distancing and such but NOBODY seems to be enforcing the rules. SO it reminds me of ALL TALK, NO ACTION… If they really were serious about this it would be more like YOUR ACTIONS ARE LOUDER THAN YOU WORDS!!!!!!
Until they ENFORCE all of these RULES, then many many people (especially people under 35 yrs. of age) will NOT take any of this seriously. Look what happened on spring break. Thousands of young teens and college age kids partied at the beaches all over the country (especially Calif. and Fl.) SO until they stop this from happening everywhere we are STILL going to be in trouble, passing it all over the place with NO end in sight. Just my two cents…and DAISY does a super super job of keeping us all informed with the FACTS and the TRUTH of the matter. And when you know the truth, the truth will set you free to breath. Otherwise you don’t know much of anything…KUDOS to Daisy… Take care!
Daisy Luther, thanks for another rational & logical assessment of the situation today. Despite your well stated article, I believe multiple levels of govt. have overreached in their attempts to “make us safe.” The “make us safe” fools errand (as it is never achieved) has been used throughout history to keep populations compliant while abusing the RIGHTS of those same populations.
Thank you Daisy for keeping us informed.
You have been spot on from the very beginning about the seriousness of this virus. I have taken your advice and started to prep early on.
You have my eternal appreciation.
p.s. Recently I have been ordering some shelf stable items online at Target and Walmart. If you need something, do it now!
Some items are being rationed – only able to order one item – and some items I just ordered a few days ago are out of stock. Also, I have ordered some things from Office Depot and Staples…I was able to order paper towels, like the folded ones you normally find in dispensers at work and in restaurants, from office supply stores. Don’t forget about Home Depot and Lowe’s for cleaning supplies.
Thank you for this analysis, Daisy I, too, would rather have something concrete to base decisions on rather than simply wish and hope. Folks in my area are getting antsy. I noticed more traffic on the roads in the past few days- essential businesses are open so people are going there (Home Depot, Walmart, Target). Drive thrus fast food lines are packed, so are bank drive thrus. With limited places for people to go, they are being corraled into just a few places. We don’t have many cases here yet, but I’m sure the numbers are higher than being reported as many who exhibit symptoms are told to just go home and are not tested, for the most part.
I’m planning for more stringent lockdown measures. Hoping that the grocery and retail that are still open will remain so to avoid civil unrest, but it is within the realm of possibility that even some of those will have to close or change their operations as the situation changes.
Keep reading between the lines and hearing what’s NOT being said.
I also wanted to thank all the people who have shared information over the years. Your advice and counsel has been invaluable to me and helped me become a totally different person than I was 10 or so years ago. I could list so many valuable little nuggets that I took to heart and acted on so now I am able to be in a position to look well to the ways of my household and not fear. So grateful for this community for helping me to assess and prepare.
Hi Daisy, could you do a quick timeline for Canada? I believe we are 2 weeks behind you guys. Also, do you have any thoughts on 5g? I seen a video of people in Wuhan ust dropping to the ground… could if be a lack of oxygen? Apparently the radiation poisoning of 5g can induce flu like symptoms. 60 ghz from 5g starts to affect the oxygen molecules rendering a slower obsorbtion rate through the hemoglobin.
Thanks, Daisy, for taking the time to analyze the numbers. Here in Alaska, our cases are growing daily, but we are watching the storm grow closer. Most of our small communities are ‘off the road system’ and many have restricted entry, because their medical facilities just couldn’t handle covid19. Our supply ships still arrive 2x week, but getting those supplies out to those villages via plane… and i’m in Anchorage. I know i no longer think it would be fun to work from home. I dream in Zoom. But, i have supplies. I have been needing to take care of an elderly friend, who is having more serious health issues, and it’s becoming dicey. So far, people seem to have good attitudes here. But like you said, those things can change very quickly. Thank you for all you do!
I have been ordering a lot of shelf stable food online with Walmart and Target.
The items in a box or a package have been arriving in good shape.
However, a lot of the canned goods have been arriving dented. Sometimes it is a case of too much space in the box and the items shift around, or just the packages being tossed into the delivery truck.
Target is much easier to return/get credit for items. I have been taking a photo of the dented cans and attaching it to their return process…you can request a replacement or refund.
With Walmart, you actually have to return the items to the store. No way am I going out there!
So Target online for canned goods seems to be the way to go. Bravo Target for your great return/refund policy!
I too received a few dented cans from Walmart pickup. I figured it was the dregs (cans people in the store ignored) or dented can from the back of the store.
Call me cynical; but I don’t believe ANY “government numbers.” They haven’t PROVEN anything they say.
Another fact not well known is that in the Lombardy region of Italy, which is ground zero for the ‘coronovirus’ In Milan alone, there are more than 60,000 legal Chinese migrants working in various industries, but primarily shoe manufacturing. Yes, Chinese nationals are making Italian shoes. And, there are more Chinese nationals running around in other parts of Lombardy.
So in Italy, the deaths are primarily the elderly. Great – but where did they get the virus from? Just search for “Lombardy” and “Milan” and you will find the above and more.
Here in Montana, we have had ONE death, the the governor shut the whole damn state down. So far this flu season, we have 9 deaths, 361 hospitalized, and over 1500 confirmed influenza illnesses – but no lock-down for that. In 2018, 182 died from car wrecks – no lockdown for that either.
Like my Grandpappy said, “Trust no one.”
FOR those who understand the government,THEY NEVER abide by their oath,THIS means their guilty of TREASON,whats the punishment for treason,SUMMARY EXECUTION,..so If their not worred about a treason trial,YOU BETTER GET READY TO FIGHT,their testing the waters right now,AT the same time their rolling out their MILITARY and POLICE GANGS to be ready to ATTACK YOU..make NO MISTAKE what your seeing here,they will be coming…AND YOU BETTER BE READY..DO NOT WAIT TILL THEIR KICKING IN YOUR DOORS…
I for one, Daisy. appreciate you keeping us up to date with critical prepping information. The lock downs definitely are a two edge sword, while they are necessary to contain this wildfire virus, the threat to our constitution & bill of rights freedoms are chilling, as we have seen after 9/11 with the “patriot act” the gov much like a boa constrictor rarely releases any power & control once it has taken it away. Although the people of China have lived under a tyrannical communist dictator regime, watching what happened in Hong Kong & Wuhan was ominous. we felt safe for a moment until the virus started to spread world wide. I believe Mike Adams might be correct to state if Trump relaxes the quarantines by Easter without requiring 100% testing confirmation of those infected & requiring everyone to where a mask, the result will be disastrous. There isn’t enough PPE, masks to give to everyone in N.Y much less the entire country. When media & gov are not 100% transparent & truthful with people concerning the threat, “Stay calm, we have it under control” ,”No need to prepare past 14 days” Stop buying masks! no need to wear masks they do not work ” there will be fear. confusion & distrust which is what we now see.
According to Dr. Falsey EVERY one is going to get it. If that is the case why didn’t he say we all go back to work then?
So, this tells me he just wants to make it worse. Specifically the economy. Kill two birds with one stoned, you know.
I don’t trust this guy looking at some of the things he said in the past..
Part of the reason why we’re only guesstimating is that the MSM has lied for so long now, we can’t believe anything they say. Things will escalate because people have not taken the danger seriously. Wof has been cried too many times. WHOever is responsible for this plandemic, knew how to have us over a barrel.
Thank you Daisy for helping us to keep our perpsective in knowing what to plan for.
The Orange Dotard just announced that lockdown will last for ANOTHER 30 DAYS.
He is insane.
A majority of American have massive debt and live paycheck to paycheck.
Within the next 30 days expect riots in major cities.
Are you serious? No responsible person would base any SAR CoV-II info on Chinese numbers.
Go back to the table and get it from Italy, S. Korea, but certainly not China.
Then redo the projection. It will be different… and more believable.
this is a long one i received from CA friend.
CORONA Common Sense
Since they are calling on Respiratory therapist to help fight the Corona virus, and I am a retired one, too old to work in a hospital setting. I’m gonna share some common sense wisdom with those that have the virus and trying to stay home. If my advice is followed as given you will improve your chances of not ending up in the hospital on a ventilator. This applies to the otherwise generally healthy population, so use discretion.
1. Only high temperatures kill a virus, so let your fever run high. Tylenol, Advil. Motrin, Ibuprofen etc. will bring your fever down allowing the virus to live longer. They are saying that ibuprophen, advil etc will actually exacerbate the virus. Use common sense and don’t let fever go over 103 or 104 if you got the guts. If it gets higher than that take your tylenol, not ibuprophen or advil to keep it regulated. It helps to keep house warm and cover up with blankets so body does not have to work so hard to generate the heat. It usually takes about 3 days of this to break the fever.
2. The body is going to dehydrate with the elevated temperature so you must rehydrate yourself regulaly, whether you like it or not. Gatorade with real sugar, or pedialyte with real sugar for kids, works well. Why the sugar? Sugar will give your body back the energy it is using up to create the fever. The electrolytes and fluid you are losing will also be replenished by the Gatorade. If you don’t do this and end up in the hospital they will start an IV and give you D5W (sugar water) and Normal Saline to replenish electrolytes. Gatorade is much cheaper, pain free, and comes in an assortment of flavor
3. You must keep your lungs moist. Best done by taking long steamy showers on a regular basis, if your wheezing or congested use a real minty toothpaste and brush your teeth while taking the steamy shower and deep breath through your mouth. This will provide some bronchial dialation and help loosen the phlegm. Force your self to cough into a wet wash cloth pressed firmly over your mouth and nose, which will cause greater pressure in your lungs forcing them to expand more and break loose more of the congestion.
4. Eat healthy and regularly. Gotta keep your strength up.
5. Once the fever breaks, start moving around to get the body back in shape and blood circulating.
6. Deep breath on a regular basis, even when it hurts. If you don’t it becomes easy to develope pneumonia. Pursed lip breathing really helps. That’s breathing in deep and slow then exhaling through tight lips as if your blowing out a candle, blow until you have completely emptied your lungs and you will be able to breath in an even deeper breath. This helps keep lungs expanded as well as increase your oxygen level.
7. Remember that every medication you take is merely relieving the symptoms, not making you well.
8. If your still dying go to ER.
GREAT tips, Anne! As a retired ER nurse, I strongly concur with everything you have said. The minty toothpaste in a hot shower is a new one to me, thanks!
Thank you for sharing this. I’m passing it on to my family. I’ve also put together my own essential oil blend to use in the diffuser which will also add things to the air that help sooth the air ways. Homemade bone broth and easy soup in the freezer ready to go.
Water jugs upstairs for easy access water. Vitamins, minerals, colloidal silver, sambuca. Ready to throw everything at this sucker before , during and after. With high fever, there’s no thinking well enough to get it together. This doesn’t mean I expect to become infected, but you know preparedness is really being prepared for the worst.
Thank you Daisy for continuing to post information that we need so desperately. When I told my older sisters to get ready and stock up a long time before this started rolling they thought I was silly (as usual). Now they are paying more attention as I tell them information you have shared with me and it’s been right on the money. Thank you again. Marlissa in North Central Texas
Hi Daisy and everyone, hmm…I am not sure about the warmer weather thing could ease the covid-19. I live in Jakarta, Indonesia, just like any other south east asian countries which is a lot warmer than NY at least these time of months but I see more and more people got infected, the numbers also keep climbing and unfortunately due to the authorities underestimated the threat from the very begining and not well prepared medical docs and staffs, we see even more people died than survived, which makes it almost twice the number.
The virus lives inside human’s body temperature of 36-37 which logically means it gets comfortable in even warmer temp. So, I’m afraid it’s not about the temperature in fact.
Although Indonesia is not yet under lock down but begins to apply more restrictions especially the term physical distancing but oh it’s much more complicated in the developing countries with large population as well. Btw, I and family have also been staying in our little apartment for more than 17 days now and try to survive with what we have, we even feel afraid to get down to buy some grocerries or just to walk around stretching. Yeah it’s been very tough for every one almost anywhere in the world and the worst thing is not knowing what’s going to happen next or when it will last for sure.
If I may suggest for all of us to just try to spend as much quality time with our families, pray and keep the little faith that by HIS grace we all be saved and hope it’ll be over sooner than we all afraid of.
Big Question CV19 a Man made immune R&D to drugs pandemic?OR a SARS offshoot lab generated?The Gov knows ? Wuhan Bio-weapons lab is across street from main market . (FIRST CASE ZERO CENTER)Did a lab tech sell bats to market? Was it accidential release? China is responsible for sure. Why has Brain dead Congress not had pandemic natl security in place. 50 man made bio-weapons are in global circulation. Russia started in early 2000 A Russian General defected and testified in Congress. RESULTS ZERO actions??
Russia gave Iran, China, North Korea technology .So, our insane democratic party rather fund killing babies than provide real pandemic natl security.I R&d a advanced energy treatment s and jackal GWBush refused to deploy advanced technology stating drugs only. BIG Pharma owns Congress. Maybe a 50 million death toll will wake up the people?? Trump the outsider is fighting the socialist takedown of America. Corruption is real and money $$ runs ruins the country. America last hope is changes in Congress or buy body bags and shovels.God Bless the Sick and medical persons on frontlines. Amewen
DonsJo you got it. There’s little doubt anymore among most experts that you can pick your scenario: Disgruntled anti-Chinese government employee at the Wuhon Level 4 Biolab only a few blocks from the outdoor market. Bribed employee of the lab by ‘foreign’ agents. Hell, the US had one of Kim Jong’s siblings working for the CIA, whom Kim killed when discovered. Should be simple to get an operative in China with all the trade and travel commerce between nations . Or a ‘foreign’ agent spreading their own newly minted bioweapon knowing the long term expectations for their political agenda? Either way, China was an ideal initiation hotspot because we’ll never know for sure.
I don’t think it will ever be as it was. How can it, no cure for this virus> Looks like it is the end for America and its people. God help us.
Pretty good analysis Daisy but since Chinese society and goverment are completely different in function from the U.S.A, with lying, denial, and covering up-which they got busted out on weeks ago-not withstanding, we can’t know if they are telling us the truth even now. The WHO will also lie for them doesn’t help either.
China could already be blowing through a second wave. Or the original strain could have mutated to something worse. More deadly, spreading faster, etc.
China also has better control over a lockdown. and therefoe a more controllable infection spread. You don’t instantly obey the Drone or military cop that orders you off the street if you don’t have a mask on or a permit badge, you get taken away to a more ‘serious lockdown’ with no habeus corpus protection.
Lockdowns in the U.S. are a joke. I’ve traveled around the country since January and visited a lot of cities and states and I’ve seen the general population in too many areas simply didn’t care to even obey suggested precautions like basic social distancing.
No one in my midwestern State obeyed a stay at home order. Even though there was a clearly defined order by the governors office.
This probably has to do with the fact that in the USA we have a Constitution that doesn’t allow a government-Federal or local- to strictly enforce a pernicious mandate that in any way restricts our Bill of rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. People basically know that and around by me after the order was first given months ago, nobody actually obeyed it and went shopping at Walmart as usual and continued as normal. Masks were out of stock then so nobody wore masks.
The state and local governments can intimidate business into closing because they issue the licenses to operate. So so-called ‘nonessential’ stores, eateries, and bars, schools, etc. were ordered to close unter penalty of ‘safety fines’. Most did where there was active enforcement. Not so much in the rural areas. Especially with ‘General Stores’ Likde MacDonalds which sold everything else also besides food.
But in the greater trade-off, Money talks, Virus walks. At least here in Capitalist America. The rationale being that you don’t kill a person’s income that destroys his life anyway just to keep from getting sick. There are other ways to Not get Sick.
The state Supreme court ruled that it’s unconstitutional to order shut downs of peoples lively hood. Didn’t have time to scrutinize the rduling details yet. But bars and restaurants re-opened immediately because this state revenue depends largely upon tourism and vacationers from the big cities.
So it’s easy to see where this is going. Until now my county and the adjacent ones had only a few cases. And these were iprobably in the big city nursing homes. The first case was reported in the Capital City which is a big university town. Directly from a traveling Chinese Student, I believe?
I see that because regular places of necessary patronization, Walmarts, the Post Office, Gas stations put up protective shields at their cash registers and made it ‘policy’ to wear masks and everybody else trained themselves to social distance, that if people really wanted to, they can do a lot on their own to mitigate the transmission of this virus until it morphs away and/or other remedies can diminish it to ‘normal’ flu levels.
I went all of June so far not talking to one person face to face. I still conducted all the necessary errands and functions. But of course there was a lot of just ‘staying home’ and absolutely NO socializing. But it was voluntary. No cop had to pull up on his bycycle and write me a ticket-like in parts of New York– for not wearing a mask. And you know something, it didn’t bother me. I have a lot to do at home.
Especially on Saturday mornings there were a lot of cartoons to catch up on…
So basically the ‘seriousness’ of this problem all depends on wear you live. Some places are a lot better than others if you can sustain a living there.
So what’s the prediction? You are right. It will probably get worse before it all starts to resemble normal existence again. and as others have assessed, some things will never be the same again.
How worse can it get? In the big cities it can be really bad. That’s because the cities like LA, NY, Chicago where the people already feel they live in a giant ‘prison’ makes them feel like they are in ‘solitary confinement’ if another mandatory lockdown goes into effect.
But another ‘reason’ is the motivation behind the anger and potential violent rebellious behavior in the streets by protestors gone wild. The Mob mentality is like a drug. After a time, it becomes an addiction.
I see it as a controlled manipulation of the event psychology directed by ‘drug dealing’ political agendas on both sides of plutocratic political aisles specifically managed by the Deep State.
The main spread of a second wave will be mainly delivered by the young people who will completely disregard social distancing or not touching each other in social gatherings which they should not be having to the extent that we will see it happening this summer.
If one is predisposed to ‘conspiracy musings’ it is not difficult to ‘see’ how Leftist extremist interest funded by wealthy Marxist power elite (who are immune to financial ruin) could use these kids as Trojan Horses without them even realizing it.
With virulent diseases like this, there can come a point where the numeric multiplier, as in keep doubling your penny value until it reaches millions, is represented in the spread of the disease. This would ravage the economy as far too many critical services personnel became too ill to function.
Indeed, riots and damage would surge until the virus quelled that as well among virtually ever other human activity in society.
When you entertain the notion, Even the best political think tanks couldn’t conceive of a better way to win the most important election in American History than having an out-of-control Pandemic that creates unreasonable fear and sinks the economy as a side effect during the sitting president’s tenure where his chances of going down with the ship are getting closer with each passing week.
Some ideologies and agendas know no limits to their insidious and evil manifestations.
Prep for the long term, if you can.