A Grocery Store in Indiana SAYS They Can’t Process Food Stamp Payments Due to Govt. Shutdown

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We weren’t expecting to see a loss of food stamp benefits until the end of January, but a grocery store in Indiana reported they are unable to process EBT payments and a store in Pennsylvania is unable to have necessary paperwork approved for them to continue accepting EBT.

In Clay City, Indiana, the local IGA discovered the problem last week. Initially, they thought it was a technical glitch.

“Our machines weren’t taking any EBT cards and we didn’t really know what was going on. We didn’t know if it was a technical issue. And then we found out it was due to the government shutting down,” Tristen Malone said. (source)

UPDATE: (This information became available AFTER the original article was published. I have edited to include this comment from the state government.)

Officials at the Indiana Family and Social Services Administration have confirmed that issues with EBT payments at one Clay City grocery store are due to a technical error, and aren’t related to the government shutdown, as the store’s management previously claimed. (source)

However, no explanation has been forthcoming, nor has an estimated time the service will resume been provided

And although it’s for a slightly different reason, The Red Lion store in York County, Pennsylvania has also had issues. New owners recently purchased the grocery store and sent in their application to accept government benefits before the shutdown occurred.

“Right now we’re officially frozen because the government is shut down and we can’t process our application.”

Tom Lohr is the new owner of D & K.

He says they tried to get pre-approved for the license before the sale went through.

“We tried to be proactive and start this in December, late November, early December , set up the new entities with the businesses it just has not worked out.”

Lohr purchased the business, but doesn’t own the company name, so the license belongs to the original owners.

“We were trying to make it a smooth transition where it would happen the first day we opened, they said if we didn’t hear anything by January 4th to give them a call back. They went dead basically just before Christmas, I think,” said Lohr.

Sixteen percent of their business comes from people who use food stamps.

D & K wants to be able to serve those in need, they’re just waiting for the government to re-open. (source)

And by the end of January, these two stores may only be a drop in the bucket.

More than 42 million Americans rely on food stamps.

A lot of people are very smug when it comes to those who rely on EBT benefits for food, picturing people driving Cadillacs to pick up their government-funded lobster and then go home and watch daytime soaps. But if you consider the state of the economy, it’s no surprise that there are millions who can’t make ends meet. Almost half of all Americans can barely afford both food and rent every month. Prices are just getting higher and wages are not increasing to meet the demands.

Really, the average EBT user isn’t always who you’d expect. Any considering 15 million children are living in homes below the poverty line, the kids will be the ones to suffer.

It’s pretty easy to be judgmental about those who accept food stamps if you have a good job and a full pantry, but remember that not everyone is in their situation by choice. Nobody is immune to hard times. I’ve been there myself.

Imagine the unpleasant surprise

Imagine going to the store to make a purchase, fully believing you have money in your account. But when the cashier tries to ring through your purchase, it’s denied. You ask her to swipe it again, because you know there’s money…but again, it’s declined. “No funds available,” you’re told.

The people who are going to buy groceries with EBT cards that are supposed to be working right now must be feeling desperate. And their frustration will cross into anger very quickly.

A cashier from Clay City, Indiana confirmed this.

“They’re really upset about it, which is understandable. I mean that’s like, you know, really discouraging that they can’t use it. And I mean we’ve had some people even get mad about it but it’s like out of our control, there’s nothing we can do about it,” Malone said. (source)

Now imagine what the situation would be like if suddenly, at the end of January, 42 million people across the country discover they won’t be able to feed their families.

It could be chaos very quickly. You know the saying, “We’re just nine meals away from anarchy.”

It’s all part of the Government Shutdown Theater.

Every single time the government shuts down, an example is made of ordinary Americans. With the Obama shutdown in 2013, all sorts of people suffered, from Native Americans to migrants to victims of domestic violence. In the current shutdown, it’s the poor people or those working government jobs paycheck to paycheck who will pay the price.

Why do they do this? Why do they make those who are suffering, suffer more?

Because the members of Congress and the government wants to impress upon us all how very essential they are to our well-being. They want to provide us with dramatic “evidence” that we can’t get by without them.

It’s delusional to think our “representatives” in Congress are there to represent anyone but themselves and their “sponsors.”

No one actually from the government is hurt by the shutdown.

Meanwhile, the “important” people aren’t noticing any hardship from the government shutdown. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi took a trip to Hawaii (but she promises it wasn’t a vacation.) And members of Congress get paid, but their staffers do not. (Kudos to this handful who have chosen to donate or forfeit their salaries during the shutdown.) It would be difficult for my opinion of these people to be much lower, but I’m sure they’ll manage to undercut my expectations even further.

The IRS will still take your money and track you down, but they won’t issue any refunds.

The system, as it stands, is anything but “by the people and for the people.”

The system is for the people who are benefitting from it. It’s for the people who are playing Americans like disposable chess pieces on a board. It’s for the people who literally benefit from the suffering of those less fortunate.

But it’s not for the rest of us.

Get prepared for some serious repercussions.

There are no signs of this shutdown ending any time soon. (Although that can change on a dime.) If it runs through the end of the month, be prepared to see some serious fallout when millions of people cannot purchase food for their families anymore. But don’t worry – your members of Congress will be just fine, regardless of how long this charade continues.

If you, personally, are relying on SNAP benefits for food, I strongly advise you to stock up now on low-cost items like beans, rice, oatmeal, peanut butter, pasta, flour, and canned fruits and vegetables. If you have money left on your card for the month, spend it now on things that won’t spoil.

If you are in a position to donate to food banks to help others, the need could soon be at an all-time high. A package of pasta and a can of sauce could at least provide a family with a warm dinner.

And no matter what your situation is, be prepared for the potential of unrest. Because hungry people with hungry children will do desperate things.

Daisy Luther

Daisy Luther

Daisy Luther is a coffee-swigging, globe-trotting blogger. She is the founder and publisher of three websites.  1) The Organic Prepper, which is about current events, preparedness, self-reliance, and the pursuit of liberty on her website, 2)  The Frugalite, a website with thrifty tips and solutions to help people get a handle on their personal finances without feeling deprived, and 3) PreppersDailyNews.com, an aggregate site where you can find links to all the most important news for those who wish to be prepared. She is widely republished across alternative media and  Daisy is the best-selling author of 5 traditionally published books and runs a small digital publishing company with PDF guides, printables, and courses. You can find her on FacebookPinterest, Gab, MeWe, Parler, Instagram, and Twitter.

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  • This is misinformation. This is a new store that has never processed EBT payments before, and they are being blocked by the government, even though EBT payments are not processed by the government, but rather by JP Morgan.

    Because the government doesn’t actually do anything. They delegate and obstruct, while holding a gun to our collective heads demanding money.

    • There are two stores, Richard. The first one has an unknown “technical” problem. The second has to do paperwork THROUGH the government before JP Morgan can process it.

  • She said, “If you are in a position to donate to food banks to help others, the need could soon be at an all-time high. ”

    I’m sorry —
    Not if I don’t know the recipient.

    If I know you, probably not.

    50yrs of forced, uncomfortable charity, and we are barely first world, anymore.

  • Unfortunately, that’s the government we have. It will always be the government we have because we keep voting for these same people over and over again. Lest you think I’m pessimistic, watch come next election how many of the incumbents get to keep their seats. Everyone will have forgotten about this by then. I feel for the people affected. I was there in 1995 when there was a shutdown when Bill Clinton was president. I had to tell my landlord I couldn’t pay the rent. I’m retired now, but always ready to help.

    • 100% right on Kathy! Retention rate is in the 90+% range. Old Mitch McConnell has been there since 1984!
      Doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

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  • So this is where we are at in 2019 United States of America? 42 million can’t feed themselves for whatever excuse?

    I agree this shutdown is just Kabuki theater. Government workers furloughed always get a paid vacation – they will get their back-pay eventually. Really, they don’t have any money in savings? They get paid a helluva lot more than I got paid in the private sector.

    If that barrier/wall/ partition/enclosure/divider/bulkhead doesn’t get built pretty soon, there will be 142 million Americans/illegals/migrants/full-time vacationers/moochers/criminals for the tax-payer to feed. Speaking of taxpayers – who’s left to pay taxes? I see Venezuela on the horizon.

    Speaking of Venezuela – Ever wonder why Trump is in a hurry to secure the border? Listen to this. Brazil, Argentina, and Columbia have strongly advised Maduro, dictator of Venezuela, to take a hike somewhere else or forcefully be removed. Columbia and Brazil are tired of taking Venezuelan refugees. If war breaks out in South America, where do you suppose all those South American refugees will go? I’ll leave you to ponder that question.

  • As of Jan., 2018 U.S. food stamp participation he’d REDUCED to approximately 42 million, down from the peak of 47 million under the Kenyan fraud. Still too many.

  • Agreed it’s really a good idea to stash some food away and donate what you can to the local food bank. One thing I think it’s good to think about it being proactive forging strong ties with neighbors as much as possible. Yes it’s also necessary to defend of course.
    I have not been through a SHTF this is just what I have been thinking. Anyone have ideas or thoughts on this?

  • I am not a food stamp expert but aren’t payment sent out electronically every month. If so, then why would current recipients not have the money direct deposited into their accounts every month? I can see with the gov shutdown where people are not able to currently enroll but established recipients shouldn’t have a problem. Again, I am not a food stamp expert. Just food (or lack of) for thought.

    • The snap program’s funding is being held up. They don’t have the funds to “direct deposit”. Just as if you have your paycheck direct deposited but your employer doesn’t send the funds. Hope this helps 🙂

  • Bypassing the political stuff, and there is plenty to say here, this just proves that EVERYONE benefits from prepping. None of us know when we will be facing a job loss, a furlough, a robbery, or any of 10,000 unknowns that could rob of us of our ability to provide food on the table or food for our pets. My safe space is my pantry, which I try to keep chock full and varied. I try to have 4 bags of 30 pounds of dog kibble in my safe space also. It won’t last forever, but I feel terrific every single time I open the door. All of us should be planning ahead for the unknown. China has been making threats of war, the Islamic fanatics are still on the murder path, and then there dozens of unknown agitators more than willing to cause mayhem. If something happens, a well stocked pantry gives you the unbelieveable gift of simply staying inside and out of harms way.

  • Is the grocery store in Clay, Indiana the only store that processes EBT payments?
    Is the Red Lion/ D&K Store in York County, Pennsylvania the only store there that can accept government payments?

    How are people preparing, if possible, knowing this is a periodic occurrence?

    Are the illegal immigrants entering the U.S. aware that there may be a delay in getting their payments? Who is going to tell them?

    No disrespect to the new applicants, the permanent ones know how to work the system.
    The illegal immigrants know the system better than I can ever know since their governments teach what and where to go once they step over the border.

  • Since Chuck and Nancy said this is just a manufactured crisis I’d like to see President Trump start dividing the ones that are caught in half and dumping half in San Francisco and the other half in NYC. How many were arrested last month, 230,000? Wouldn’t that be the democratic thing to do?

  • Sorry.

    SHUT. IT. DOWN.

    I have neighbors out here in rural America who live on shoestrings. But they are neighbors in the best sense of the word. They are pleasant, friendly, and always willing to help a neighbor out, and therefore we help them out. I would have (and have had) no problem helping them over tough times before I’d give a single penny to any government program that funds ingrates, moochers, troublemakers, spendthrifts, and the personally irresponsible, on the theory that they have some “entitlement” to my money.

    All those other “needy” in America? They had better be on those kinds of terms with some of their own family members or neighbors. It’s not hard, we used to have those relationships all the time in America… back when our national pastime was baseball, and not finding something to be offended about in everything everybody says every day.

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