By the author of Be Ready for Anything and the online course Bloom Where You’re Planted
Everyone is talking about a looming civil war on American soil, but they’re all blaming the “other” side. The media is deliberately trying to stir things up with breathless headlines about how awful the “other” side is. And it’s working so well it could lead us right to Civil War 2.0. (Here’s what you need to know to be prepared for widespread civil unrest.)
The fact is, both the Left and the Right are to blame, threatening those who don’t have the same worldview. What it’s essential for us to keep in mind is that these are the opinions of the extremes of both sides. We in America have had conservative and liberal points of view along with everything in between for decades without the constant, looming threat of violence.
Here are some examples.
For example, Wendy Wolfe Herd, CEO of the dating app Bumble and a member of Forbes Magazine’s 30 Under 30, was the victim of a cyber attack launched by a “neo-Nazi organization” that posted Herd’s personal details online, as well as the contact information of her staff.
The cyber attack occurred a couple of weeks after the Charlottesville rally last August, in which a man was with charged with a federal hate crime after driving into the crowd of counter-protesters. Herd released a statement saying that her company was “joining forces to ban all forms of hate from Bumble including racism, hate speech, and bigotry.” She believes this is why she and her employees were targeted. Herd now travels with bodyguards.
At the same time, the Far Left is also stirring the pot and threatening dissenters with violence. Some guy named Hamilton Nolan recently posted an article on the “progressive” website Splinter that seemed to have referenced the politically-motivated bombings that took place during Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford’s administrations in response to the Vietnam War. While some of his points about the warmongers in Congress are legitimate, he goes way, wayyyy off into the ether in his calls to action. Here are some excerpts from his essay, entitled “This Is Just the Beginning.”
This is all going to get more extreme. And it should. We are living in extreme times. The harm that is being done to all of us by the people in the American government is extreme.
… I do not believe that Trump administration officials should be able to live their lives in peace and affluence while they inflict serious harms on large portions of the American population. Not being able to go to restaurants and attend parties and be celebrated is just the minimum baseline here. These people, who are pushing America merrily down the road to fascism and white nationalism, are delusional if they do not think that the backlash is going to get much worse.
…Read a fucking history book. Read a recent history book. The U.S. had thousands of domestic bombings per year in the early 1970s. This is what happens when citizens decide en masse that their political system is corrupt, racist, and unresponsive. The people out of power have only just begun to flex their dissatisfaction. The day will come, sooner that you all think, when Trump administration officials will look back fondly on the time when all they had to worry about was getting hollered at at a Mexican restaurant. When you aggressively fuck with people’s lives, you should not be surprised when they decide to fuck with yours. (source)
Who even is this guy and why does he have such a platform? Literally, nobody I know has ever heard of him before this essay that is getting so much press, although apparently, he used to work for Gawker. He even got to post a follow-up essay with some of the familiar hatred from people who were outraged by his first essay. (And while I wholeheartedly disagree with Nolan, I can completely relate to the hate mail – the internet breeds some craziness and people think nothing of threatening your life and the lives of your loved ones.)
There was also an NYU professor who was proclaimed a “hero” by AntiFa for doxxing employees of ICE. I don’t like ICE anymore than these folks but posting their personal information and addresses online is nothing but a call for violence.
And after the Red Hen restaurant in Lexington, Virginia asked Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders to leave, some guy from West Virginia vandalized the place, allegedly throwing animal poop at the establishment.
Updated: On June 26, alt-right pundit Milo Yiannopolis called for people to shoot journalists.
Milo Yiannopoulos has started issuing reporters threatening messages when asked to comment for stories.
“I can’t wait for the vigilante squads to start gunning journalists down on sight,” the right-wing nationalist told Observer over text message, in response to a longer feature in development about an Upper East Side restaurant he is said to frequent.
When asked to elaborate on who specifically had upset him, Yiannopoulos explained that the statement was his “standard response to a request for comment.” (source)
Today, in a horrifying attack on the Capital Gazette newsroom in Annapolis, Maryland, a gunman opened fire on journalists. There are multiple fatalities, the gunman has been identified as a white man in his 20s, and no further details are known at this time. (source)
Politicians are getting in on the hate-mongering too.
Politicians are getting media attention from the hullabaloo as well.
Most notably, Congresswoman Maxine Waters, who I swear is only famous for her sh*t-disturbing ways, has said that anyone who disagrees with her should be treated horribly, particularly those who work for the current administration.
If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.” (source)
Threats against Republican politicians have skyrocketed, leading to speculation that this is the impetus behind quite a number of sudden early retirements.
I’m not really a fan of Democrat OR Republican politics, but the pattern here seems to lean toward the threatening behavior coming from the Left side of the aisle. If anyone has some credible links about Republican members of Congress recently making calls for incivility against the Democrats, please post them in the comments and I’ll update the article.
And big surprise, the media is pushing this narrative.
It’s essential to note that the threats and anger have been going on for quite some time now. But it seems like there is a whole lot more of it because it’s the topic du jour in the mainstream of late. Just like Selco warned us in his recent article, the media has an agenda and they are playing us like a violin. If there is a Civil War, you can be sure that those in the MSM are every bit as responsible for stirring up the hatred and division as the people who hacked Herd’s website and the dude who wrote the essay I cited.
In no way am I saying that anyone should target members of the media, as happened today in Annapolis, Maryland. Violence only begets more violence. What I’m saying is that you need to be aware of what is happening.
Look how neatly they are making us hate and fear one another.
I guess my question is, are you going to let yourself be manipulated?
- Are the other parents of kids on your son’s baseball team actually the enemy because they voted for someone different, or are they just the folks who select the really good, name-brand popsicles when it’s their turn to bring the treats?
- Is your next door neighbor who had the campaign sign for the candidate you detested in her front yard during the last presidential race actually the antiChrist or is she just the one with the best tomatoes on the block?
- What about the guy at the dog park with the two sweet-natured Golden Retrievers? Did you think he was pretty cool before you saw the unfortunate bumper sticker on his SUV?
If we are directly threatened, we absolutely must defend ourselves. It’s our natural human right to do so. But politics? Bumper stickers? Don’t be a snowflake. You don’t have to engage in the hate.
We need to look at the individual people and we need to ignore the media that tells us they’re the enemy. Maybe they want to drum up a war, but we can be the majority who stops it. We can refuse to participate and take the bait.
This is a much bigger issue than the media. The sources (media) you cited are pretty extreme in the “news” they promote! Main stream media are not in control of the actions of our leaders or the politics of Washington D.C. They are reporting. Perhaps it would be better to “follow the money” in looking for the sources of discontent and hatred that are brewing in this country. I don’t know what your religious views are but the Bible says that as we near the end of time that peoples’ relationships will grow worse and worse. The same is predicted among the nations as well. When you see hate being disseminated from the top government officials it is no wonder that those who are predisposed to the same kinds of behavior will see that as license to engage in the same corrupt behaviors. We are, I think, locked into a scenerio that like the rodeo rider on the bucking horse in the shoot has no way out! This country is in a crisis that is far beyond the media’s blame. Most of us are unaware of the puppeteer behind the scenes pulling the strings!
George Soros and his cabal of puppeteers. He personally funds over 100 anti-American organizations in the US which includes BLM, Anti-fa, Move On. He supported, groomed Obama for the presidency along with his cabal. If the Dems/liberals are looking to the Black Panthers of the 1970’s, Bill Ayers of bombing fame and pumping up Americans to do the same then a lot of innocent people are going to be hurt. I was at a grocery store in Seattle when the Black Panthers bombed it. It sent no message, gained no support, created no revolution. But it did kill innocent people going about their day to day lives. A pox on Soros and Obama and their cabal. If you don’t like our country, our Constitution then go live somewhere else…but you see, their pie in the sky is complete new world order, one world government…get rid of all these nations and their separate governments. They are about eugenics believing absolutely that who they are is special, special DNA. They are the most sick and twisted of individuals and indoctrinated minds are following them down to hell.
“The sources (media) you cited are pretty extreme in the “news” they promote! Main stream media are not in control of the actions of our leaders or the politics of Washington D.C. They are reporting. ”
They aren’t anymore.
Corporate news is propaganda. It’s all lies. Hey, find that weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq yet? They fired Phil Donohue for not being on board with the propaganda. Remember that?
The reason we’re seeing chaos, is that the mafia that has been in power for so long, is being exposed. A mafia controls the United States, not the public. This mafia has been murdering people in at least 8 nations non stop for 16 years. In order to escape their just dessert, they’re trying to stir up a civil war. That’s not going to happen.
Daisy, Thank you so much for your advocacy of REAL tolerance, and resolving our ideological conflicts peacefully. I sincerely wish more people were actually listening. If this country goes down in the flames of Civil War 2.0, it will be because of ideologues on both “sides” of the false dichotomy.
Liberal, Conservative, Left, Right Purple, Green, who kriffing cares? In the end it’s really about liberty versus slavery; there is nothing else to it. The real solution is to learn about and practice self-governance and self-determination. Refuse to feed the beast, refuse to become part of the horde.
Unfortunately, we have dark times ahead of us, I think, and so we should all look to our preps, including our get home alive, Bug out / Bug in plans and preps, in case things go suddenly, violently bad. Myself, I’m glad Redbranch and I live someplace where most of the time it’s too damned hot for rioting!
I hope wise counsel such as yours goes viral, and changes some minds. In the mean time, sister, keep fighting for the light side; you are not alone out here. Oh, and please, don’t let the haters and fanatics who come on here and try to spread their poison get to you. It’s in their nature, LOL!
Where Redbranch and I live, we learned long ago, Rattlesnake’s gonna Rattlesnake, Scorpions gonna scorpion, but wise and careful action will turn either one into a tasty meal in a survival situation
I couldn’t have said it better myself, Blue-Hair san. You are so right. Daisy, thank you for posting this. I cherish every time I see someone advocating wise calm action that involves thought instead of instinct. We are better than our impulses. Sure, we have the urge to split into monkey-tribe squabbling, and decide that the person with the wrong colored bumper sticker is the Worst Person Ever but the truth is, we probably have more in common than we think.
An important thing to keep in mind, also, is that opinion is informed by the information we have taken in. If that annoying liberal or conservative has been raised in an echo chamber, they may not have considered that there is another perspective that is closer to objective truth. Polarization walks hand in hand with extremism and the wise person tries for the middle, free path.
Nice feel good article, not very realistic or pragmatic though. The hatred goes far deeper than MSM, a lot goes down to peoples DNA it is so deep. You are not going to change the lunitic fringe from either side, too much inbred hatetred. It will only take a small percentage of our population to actually start another Civil War. We have reached that point. Soooo, you best be getting ready, (thus sites like yours), to defend yourself, your families, friends and community. Stocking up on food and essentials is necessary but #1 is getting armed, ammoed and trained up. You can( in most places) still purchase guns and bullets. Don’t be caught empty handed, your life will depend on you being armed!
Concur with the vast majority of what you said. Exception would be the snowflake bumper stickers. Plenty of them on the opposite side also. I hate no one, I dislike some. Some are just plain scary. I remember the ex CHP guy working in the sporting goods department who was rabidly on the far right. Talking about how when the balloon goes up he and his “group” were going after the democrats to “take them out” and that they had lists of who they were. I looked at him and said I guess it’s good for me that I’m a libertarian. I used to be a Democrat, my wife still is. And I still love her!
I used “snowflake” as a generic term. I think we’ve all seen recently that there are snowflakes with all different kinds of philosophies. 🙂
Dear Ms. Luther, just curious if you consider Fox News to be part of the MSM who are “stirring up hatred and division”? In my opinion, their political “commentators” have been doing that for years. One other point – whenever I read a particularly nasty, offensive post that starts to get my blood boil I try to remember that it might not even have been posted by an American citizen. It could have been posted by someone posing as an American in order to foment more division in our already sadly divided country. We need to be sure we’re not being manipulated by anyone, whether they be a member of the media or an agent of a hostile country!
Don’t forget Fox news spent all of the GWB presidency covering for his lies to bring this nation into a war in Iraq.
They’re just as scummy as any other corporate propaganda “news” is.
It is a plot I tell you.
‘The world appears divided and chaotic exactly because it has been MADE that way by a select few in the globalist establishment. In fact, if you were to name any war in the past 100 years, any competent alternative analyst would easily produce undeniable evidence of the involvement of international banks and think tanks pulling strings on both sides.
If you don’t understand the concept of “order out of chaos,” then you’ll never understand a thing.
Engineered chaos serves several purposes. It provides distraction and cover for the elites to implement other plans that they would rather not have noticed.
It also provides a scapegoat for the masses, who are now divided against each other. When violent changes are implemented that produce destructive consequences, the people must be placated with an easily identifiable villain. Certain changes globalists wish to make in the way the world functions require the careful exploitation of scapegoats.’
Tyler Durden
Lets get to the root of the problem. Here in the USA, under our Constitutional republic, we are NOT supposed to have political parties. This is what the framers called “factions”, and for a good reason, they divide us, people forget what we are actually supposed to be voting for in our nation, and instead vote party. The framers warned us about parties/factions. Let’s see if what they said is what is happening today.
Heck, how many people today even know that we are NOT a “democracy? Nor do we have a central government, federal? Or that the states are ABOVE and have more power then the general (federal) government which was created to be a representative for the states in dealing with foreign nations, war, etc – LIMITED POWERS that are listed in writing for all to know? Or that these “wars” of aggression that we are in with NO DECLARATION of war by the Congress are criminal acts on the part of ALL involved, even those who refuse to act and do their duty? Or that they are ALLOWED to fund a war for two years AFTER a Congressionally declared war, and then they must decide again if they are going to continue to fund it. Or that there is a LIST of things which those who serve within the House/gov may spend money on, anything else they use if for is Misappropriation of Funds. Or that it is ONLY the House of Representatives that can decide where the money is spent, although the Senate is ALLOWED to make suggestions, those suggestions do not need to be followed? This was done because the House is directly responsible to the people. Nor can those who serve within our governments – state or federal – take our property, they are allowed to tax it when it is bought, but not every year as that would be renting or leasing. Etc, etc, etc…
The House AND Senate are both REQUIRED to read a “bill” three (3)X’s in its entirety per “The Rules of Procedure before voting on the “bill”. If changes are made to that Bill, they must re-read it again 3 times.
John C. Calhoun’s 1831 “Fort Hill Address”: “The error is in the assumption that the General Government is a party to the constitutional compact. The States, as has been shown, formed the compact, acting as Sovereign and independent communities. The General Government is but its creature;”
John Adams: “There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.” And “Abuse of words has been the great instrument of sophistry and chicanery, of party, faction, and division of society.”
George Washington, Farewell Address: “Let me… warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party.”
plus “And of fatal tendency … to put, in the place of the delegated will of the Nation, the will of a party – often a small but artful and enterprising minority. … They are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the Power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government; destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.”
And “The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism.”
James Madison, drafter of the Constitution, 4th President, “Father of the Constitution”, about the budget in Fed 58: “The House of Representatives cannot only refuse, but they alone can propose, the supplies requisite for the support of the government…This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutatory measure.” also explains that one of the main reasons the House was vested with this important power was to reduce “the overgrown prerogatives of the other branches of government” as the people may demand.
Virginia Representative Alexander White to James Madison: “The Constitution, having authorized the House of Representatives alone to originate money bills, places an important trust in our hands, which, as their protectors, we ought not to part with. I do not mean to imply that the Senate are less to be trusted than this house; but the Constitution, no doubt for wise purposes, has given the immediate representatives of the people a control over the whole government in this particular, which, for their interest, they ought not let out of their hands.” Madison confirmed this reason to V. Rep. White with these words: “The principle reason why the Constitution had made this distinction was, because they (the House) were chosen by the people, and supposed to be the best acquainted with their interest and ability.”
Mark Twain: “For in a Republic, who is “the country?” Is it the Government which is for the moment in the saddle? Why, the Government is merely a servant – merely a temporary servant; it cannot be its prerogative to determine what is right and what is wrong, and decide who is a patriot and who isn’t. Its function is to obey orders, not originate them.”
Here’s the enumerated powers which list the objects on which Congress may appropriate funds:
— Immigration office (Article. I, §8, Clause.4)
— Mint (Article. I, §8,, Clause 5)
— Attorney General (Article. I, §8,, Clause 6)
— Post Offices & Postal Roads – freeways, etc (Article. I, §8, Clause 7)
— Patent & Copyright Office (Article. I, §8, , Clause 8)
— Federal Courts (Article. I, §8, , Clause 9)
— Military (Article. I, §8, Clauses 11-16)
— the Civil list (Article. I, §6, Clause 1)
[and other objects listed in various other Articles, Sections, & , Clauses such as costs associated with creating Treaties, etc]
James Madison: “The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature … the executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war.”
George Washington: “The constitution vests the power of declaring war in Congress; therefore no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until after they shall have deliberated upon the subject and authorized such a measure.”
James Madison: “Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied: and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals, engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.”
Samuel Adams May 15, 1764: “But if our Trade may be taxed why not our Lands? Why not the Produce of our Lands and every thing we possess or make use of? This we apprehend annihilates our Charter Right to govern and tax ourselves… are we not reduced from the Character of free Subjects to the miserable State of tributary slaves?”
George Washington: ““I think the Parliament of Great Britain hath no more Right to put their hands into my Pocket, without my consent, than I have to put my hands into your’s, for money…”
Thomas Jefferson to Lord North 1775: “That this privilege of giving or of withholding our monies, is an important barrier against the undue exertion of prerogative, which if left altogether without control, may be exercised to our great oppression; and all history shews how efficacious is its intercession from redress of grievances, and re-establishment of rights, and how improvident it would be to part with so powerful a mediator.”
Good one Daisy.
MSM is fueling a lot of discontent out there. They will play the victim (as they have been) when something bad happens.
But they are just as guilty if not more so.
And that would be all of them, on both sides.
The so called alt-news or non-MSM news sites, they have really gone off the deep end.
As intelligent human beings, read the news, separate the facts from the bias, and draw your own, hopefully objective, conclusions.
ha, if that’s the case…go to every media, get their ceo, and staff and shoot them on site…..if they want a civil war,,,then they will be the first to die in this civil war….period
Really not the solution I had in mind. It’s not a good idea at all to recommend things like that online or elsewhere, Yep. Nor is it any kind of solution.
We need LESS violence and rage.
Just don’t forget our corporate media have been the cheerleaders for every war we’ve been in for 16 years, straight.
One hopeful thing is that more and more people simply don’t listen. Trump is absolutely right when he says our corporate media is the enemy of the people. It is. It has been for a long time. It exists to misinform us, lie to us, propagandize us – and that’s all it does.
I’m glad more and more people are simply choosing to ignore it and realizing what it actually is.
Well you are so right
Multiple fatalities at Maryland newsroom active shooter
Right now breaking on Fox News
Wow.
That’s heartbreaking. How has it devolved to this?
“When you aggressively fuck with people’s lives, you should not be surprised when they decide to fuck with yours. ”
Well, that’s absolutely true. He should print it out and paste it on his bathroom mirror.
In my little corner of the world, no one I know wanted this fight. I am a Conservative and the ones poking their fingers in people’s faces were those on the Left. The Left is not interested in having a rational discussion, or finding a solution for our problems that we face today as Americans. Sorry Daisy, I think you’re wrong on this.
I was hoping you could footnote the ‘ cyber attack launched by a “neo-Nazi organization” ‘
reference. The term Nazi is used often by the left to stir the pot. and I would like to know what
was the name of the organization you identified at neo-Nazi. to cross check your use of the reference.
thanks
Let the civil war begin then. The first to be killed will be the “reporters” and their bosses.
Hi Daisy,
Please read this: http://milnenews.com/2018/06/28/left-wing-writer-warns-trump-admin-will-have-bomb-attacks-against-them/, and when finished, we can talk about how both sides of the aisle are responsible for our current mess. I do not consider Tim McVey, or any neo-Nazi organizations to be Right-wing.
That is the exact article I quoted in mine. And how you don’t consider Neo Nazis part of your politics?
I’d be willing to bet that a lot of liberals don’t feel that the author of the piece that hints at bombing the president’s staff speaks for them.
Most people are NOT extremists.
Do you know what the ideology of Fascism is?
Economically, it’s when corporations control the nation and certain favored corporations receive funding from the nation through taxation. Like when the US Federal government bailed out the banks in 2008. Or like when TARP was enacted.
In a fascist system, propaganda is used to control the population. Like when our “media” spent 2002 trying to convince the public that “we can’t wait for the final proof to come in the form of a mushroom cloud”, and then when it was clear there wasn’t such a program, didn’t bother to find out who was responsible for that “mistake”.
A fascist state is warlike and militarily aggressive. Like when Obama spent 8 years, bombing 7 nations, after winning the Nobel Peace Prize. What did any of those 7 nations ever do to the United States?
The United States has been fascist, for a long, LONG time. We’re Nazis now.
Oh, and if I wasn’t clear – that’s not the ideology of Conservatives.
That’s the ideology of the Neocons, of which Hillary Clinton was one.
Remember, Trump run as the peace candidate. He said it was insane to go to war with Russia, and it is. Most Republicans today have turned their back on George W. Bush, and he’s widely regarded as a RINO. The Republican party collapsed in 2007 and a black guy with a Muslim sounding name won.
The Republican rank and file were the FIRST to realize their party was irredeemably corrupt, and they were so fed up with it, they elected Trump in the primary. They were pushing for Ron Paul in 2007 and 2013.
Now it’s time for the Democratic rank and file to wake up. The Democratic leadership is entirely corrupt, and they are entirely dominated by warmongers, and liars.
The media does stir things up, however they serve a important purpose. I live in rural America, without the media reporting what is happening in the big cities, I wouldn’t know about them. I don’t purposely travel to big cites. I prefer trees to concrete. There is crime in the rural areas but nothing to amount to the crimes in the democratic dominated cesspools that are American cities. I have nothing in common with people who live in San Francisco or New York city. I don’t want a civil war but if like minded states can’t peacefully split from what was once the “united” States of America then a civil war seems to be in our future. The media has accomplices in the teacher’s unions which have dumbed down several generations of kids by eliminating civics and removing the pledge of allegiance and God from the classrooms. Millennials in particular have no long term goals in life, don’t want children, and could care less about good jobs and home ownership. Everything that made America great is despised by most of that generation. Most people talk about our democracy as if that is the form of government we live under. Well wake up, we are a republic with people elected to represent our wishes in government. Does your representative vote the way you think her or she should, or are they doing what they need to do to stay in Congress? Join the Convention of States movement. One of their goals is to enact term limits that are desperately needed. Drain the Swamp!!!
….and WHO owns the media?
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh………………….
A hint?
‘It’s anti-Semitic to tell the truth’
Interesting take on it. I would suggest everyone read “The Fourth Turning”. Talks about cycles in history. We really seem to be in a bad part of the cycle. I would bet that empires, civilizations, religions etc all run in cycles as well. This empire seems to falling in numerous ways. Best of luck to everyone!
Question
Are you referring to Nazis as the extreme right?
if you are thats incorrect – Nazis are Socialists!
Historically speaking, I believe you are correct.
However, here in the US, the neo-Nazi movement is a alt-right, or far right group.
I see them as a mirror image of the ANTIFA group that has arisen here in the states (or, the other way around technically).
I see both as . . . not good.
Seeing even more rhetoric as of late (after Daisy’s initial posting of her article), that is adding to the fuel.
Unfortunately, someone out there will misinterpret what someone is saying or various things being said, on either side, and do something spectacularly dumb.
> However, here in the US, the neo-Nazi movement is a alt-right, or far right group.
The alt-reich is not alt-right. The neos are still leftists. And idiots.
If you’re talking about congresspeople, I’m not aware of any Republicans tweeting threats (though I surely could have missed some, as I have some life off social media 😉 ). But it is a little odd not to see any acknowledgment of President Trump’s direct or implicit threats of violence. Maxine Waters may be wrong about a lot, but she’s not wrong to call out Trump for his hypocrisy on this point: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/394087-maxine-waters-reads-list-of-times-trump-has-called-for-violence
NEwspapers as of yesterday should be getting the message that being nasty will come back at them. I say let them keep up their nasty comments.
I think civil war might be a stretch. From what I can gather, neither set of extremes, left or right, have an organized, supplied and led force capable of an organized conflict. Guerrilla war is probably closer to the mark. I will grant you that when civil war is used in the headline, it garners a lot more attention. And of course most people in this country will profess they know about our civil war, when in reality they do not. There are not really a lot of famous guerrilla wars out there. People readily understand what civil war means, one side against the other in some organized and defined way. Guerrilla war is a much harder animal to describe due to its continuing evolution in both tactics and players. I pray we don’t see either kind of war. But I think that common sense and civility have left our society. At any rate, the advice to always prepare is precisely why we visit sites like this one. Thanks Daisy for an excellent article.
I agree, “Civil War” evokes all sorts of associations and is likely better understood to the average person than “guerrilla” or “low intensity conflict” (although I’ve always wondered if the dead, wounded, and destroyed families feel any less dead, wounded, or destroyed in a “low intensity conflict”!). Of course the average person doesn’t really understand the “Civil” War 1.0 either, except in the most infantile, comic book manner.
Parallels between America ca. 1850s – 1860s have to be viewed with caution; we’re obviously not the same. However, because human nature doesn’t change, you can gain insight from patterns and themes. One incident in particular comes to mind: John Brown’s raid on Harper’s Ferry, VA in 1859. He was actively attempting to arm slaves and incite a revolution, wherein both white and black folk would be killed. When Southerners saw the reaction in the North – seeming approval of Brown’s actions and the killing of many – regardless whether they were pro or anti-slavery, many perceived there was no longer a place for them in the Union. After John Brown, then, there was no turning back.
To my mind, we’re already there.
Now, I have no patience with those on “our side” who pound their chests, and seem to wish for any sort of conflict. Unlike many of them, I’ve been deployed to a war zone, and seen the effects on individuals, families, and nations. I’ve also had to deal with the aftermath of war (And I’m still dealing with it!) It sucks! No one in his right mind wants that here!
However, I’ve been forced by circumstances and experience into a certain level of cynicism (or is it realism?). Reality doesn’t care how you or I feel about it. Choices and actions have consequences. Try as we might to prevent conflict, it may be upon us. I guess that’s the point of sites like this: Be prepared!
This is exactly how I feel. The media and whoever the “puppet masters” behind it are, at the very least, trying to divide this country.. for what reason is yet to be seen, idk. I think its not just the left and right that are being further divided, but also the sheep and the non sheep. Finding non-bias, factual news is almost impossible these days. The media are training people to think all these opinion based news comment shows are actual facts. They get their little heard of sheep together , ruffle them up or send out a “call for action” … people just do it…no thinking for themselves, no looking at the other sides view and trying to compromise…just violence and hate mongering. The media gets to blame the other side and look like they are struggling to figure out “what would drive a person to do such a thing” when one of these nuts hurts people..and around we go.
Ms. Luther loses points with me for uncritically repeating Ms. Herd’s claim that she and her staff were doxed by a “neo-nazi” website. Who or what was this website? Surfing the web draws a blank.
I provided the link in the paragraph and used “quote” marks because I was unable to find corroborating evidence of this.
If you will do a small amount of research —- you will find that the producers of most of todays sitcom media is owned and produced by a very new group of people. They are financed by a group of liberals and progressives and a couple of wealthy consortiums of professional sports players and investment groups . I’ll give ya three guesses what their goals are!!!!!!!!!
@Geni, actually you’re wrong. Our problems start and end with the mainstream media
Unfortunately, they also have a good amount of the country who trusts them hypnotized by feeding them a continuous diet of mostly false propaganda.
I can see you are one of these people. God bless you. I know you won’t believe me, but please start to research what you’re being told. Do t just trust what they say. We can fix this issue, but it counts on people like you snapping oit of it