Selco: You Know the SHTF Has Started When People Begin Losing Their Guns

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People always want to know how they can tell when the SHTF is coming. The SHTF you get is not always the one you expect. A lot of SHTFs that aren’t natural disasters have something in common. It is a way you can tell that things are getting bad.

The SHTF everyone expects

We are conditioned to think that an SHTF event is going to be something flashy and surprising, in a way that it is going to be a moment in time when you can recall the day and the hour.  People think that it will make a strict and sharp cornerstone between normal everyday life, and SHTF time.

Most believe that all of us will be sure and will know that SHTF has started and that we have to go into SHTF mode or survival mode. Most expect it to be like it was for me when things became chaotic. (If you want to learn what those days were really like, click here.)

It might happen like that with some catastrophic event like EMP, a terrorist attack or whatever.

So let’s say the event goes like this timeline:

  • Day 1: EMP happens
  • Day 3: You realize that the system simply does not have enough power to hold society together. There’s riots, looting, absence of law and order…
  • Day 7: Everyone realizes it is full-out SHTF time, and it is gonna last for a long time…

This is a very simplified example of an SHTF event, and since you are a prepper you should realize and recognize that S did hit the fan on day 1. You should start then to work in survival mode, whatever plan you have (to bug out, bug in, make preparations for it or whatever).

But it’s not always like that.

Here is another example of SHTF:

  • Day 1: A law has been voted that all citizens with criminal records or problems with the law need to register their weapon.
  • Day 33: You realize that “criminal records” for a citizen who owns a weapon (or wants to own a weapon) include not agreeing with official government policies on public networks. So for example, if you trash government policies on Facebook you are being tracked as a weapon owner.
  • Day 67: You as a weapon owner are suddenly being restricted what kind of weapon and how much ammo you can buy for that weapon.
  • Day 166: A law is voted that local authority may go into your house in any moment, to check for your weapons and ammo, and check where and why you spent that ammo (if you did).
  • Day 245: After months of civil unrest and bad economic situations, great divisions in your society for whatever reason (politics, immigrants, unemployment) the government proclaims that in “the name of law and order” they are confiscating all weapons owned by private citizens.

End of story. You are disarmed.

Why this is important

Now, three things here are important.

1) This scenario above is fictional.

Do not get over-involved emotionally with your personal settings in a way that you’ll say in anger “It cannot happen here!” If you do, you are missing the point.

2) Think about it.

After you look it as a fictional, I can say that something very similar happened here in my case, and in many other cases around the world. And there are signs something similar might happen there.

3) How?

Well, if you go back and read this fictional 245 days scenario and still think “it cannot happen,” you need to realize how it can. Maybe from day one you and everybody else like you will be portrayed through the media, and bombarded with information that you and your weapon present an extreme danger to law-abiding folks. They will say that you are not a “normal part of society”, that “guns kill our kids” etc.

After months of media bombardment with that kind of disinformation, your own neighbor will look at you like you are terrorist, because your car bumper sticker “I Love Glock”.

When the time comes, you’ll simply be an outlaw, strange kind of person who is so different and scary. After all, aren’t you already  “weird” because you are a prepper?

Rights are not permanent things.

If you say “ I’ll defend my right to carry” then good luck with that. Because your right could be stripped down and taken away by the majority of people, and that opinion is being so carefully implanted in them right now by the media.

You are gonna be run over by an armored police car trashing your house, because you are defending your right to own a weapon, and the police are gonna be celebrated as heroes.

Do not underestimate public opinion and power of media in forming those opinions. It is only a matter what kind of public opinion needs to be formed.

One day, you are a freedom-loving man who defends his constitutional and God-given right. The next day you are a terrorist who does not deserve any kind of sympathy.

What is the solution?

Since you are a prepper you are probably already used to the fact that you are a minority. You probably do not easily talk about your preps or try to convince other people to prep, also.

It is similar here. Do not try too much to change other people’s opinions about gun control. It makes more sense to hide your own opinion and play by your own rules.

Regardless of how you believe it should be, the system will make it possible to take weapons from you, through their careful and smart game.

I would not want to have my weapons registered or traceable.  There are always ways that some people manage to have a weapon and not be tracked.  It would be easier for them to hide a gun that nobody knows about.

Remember in this fictional scenario, the SHTF has actually started on day one. No, people are not being killed on the streets. The system and the law are still there. You still go to your job. Your kids go to school.

But the S has hit the fan, and you need to go to survival mode. You need to not be interesting to anybody, but you still need to own weapons.

In my case, it did not start with war.

It started months before.

It started when authorities took legally owned guns from normal folks, all in the name of law and order and keeping the peace. And everybody agreed with it because it was the law. And people who did not agree with it were portrayed as troublemakers, warmongers, terrorists…

And every single weapon was tracked down and registered in local police stations.

It was the law.

About Selco:

Selco survived the Balkan war of the 90s in a city under siege, without electricity, running water, or food distribution. He is currently accepting students for his next physical course here.

In his online works, he gives an inside view of the reality of survival under the harshest conditions. He reviews what works and what doesn’t, tells you the hard lessons he learned, and shares how he prepares today.

He never stopped learning about survival and preparedness since the war. Regardless of what happens, chances are you will never experience extreme situations as Selco did. But you have the chance to learn from him and how he faced death for months.

Real survival is not romantic or idealistic. It is brutal, hard and unfair. Let Selco take you into that world.



Selco survived the Balkan war of the 90s in a city under siege, without electricity, running water, or food distribution. In his online works, he gives an inside view of the reality of survival under the harshest conditions. He reviews what works and what doesn’t, tells you the hard lessons he learned, and shares how he prepares today. He never stopped learning about survival and preparedness since the war. Regardless what happens, chances are you will never experience extreme situations as Selco did. But you have the chance to learn from him and how he faced death for months. Read more of Selco's articles here. Buy his PDF books here. Take advantage of a deep and profound insight into his knowledge by signing up for his unrivaled online course. Real survival is not romantic or idealistic. It is brutal, hard and unfair. Let Selco take you into that world.

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  • Here in U.K. we have quietly been relieved of any form of self defence bar martial arts.
    It started with the Michael Ryan false flag MKUltra Hungerford massacre, which resulted in the deaths of nearly twenty innocent shoppers, followed by the banning of any pistol or automatic weapon unless a registered member of a licensed gun club.
    Next was the paedophile Hamilton’s massacre at Dunblane of many young children and teachers, leading to tightening up of the pistol laws and introducing shotgun restrictions, like limiting a Remington to 3 cartridges.
    Finally, two years ago the government quietly introduced new laws forbidding the carrying in a public place, sale or giving of any penknife deemed “a weapon”, including a 2” bladed lock knife, the type used by Boy Scouts since they were 12 years old.
    So, they’d really haven’t started on you yet. IN U.K. it was fait accompli before we knew the plan, what a false flag Agassi and before mind control became a news item.

  • I can see this trying to be played in America. BUT, The powers to be have to rid society of the Constitution and Bill Of Rights First. EMP happens . could be…..Red Flag law will not get the job done. That will just cause a huge Black Market. How is the War on Drugs working out? When will the war on drugs be won and be over?

    The people coming for the guns have to sleep and their family does to… So who is coming to the citizens house to get guns, when they better wonder who is coming to theirs…..

    I hope cooler heads prevail on gun issues… follow the Constitution and it will be alright.

    • You’re right. I equate this not only with the war on drugs, but also prohibition back in the 1920s-30s. Didn’t work out so well.

    • Suppose a law enforcement agency wanted to have a training exercise
      that was so realistic, that onlookers couldn’t tell that it was merely an
      exercise and not an actual event. Suppose they could pre-surround the
      staging area with layers of plainclothes personnel to keep well-intentioned
      private citizens from inadvertently interfering. If you were in a
      public place and a man with an AR-15 or AK-47 type rifle entered and
      began shooting, would you hang around to see whether the rifle had a
      blank adapter attached to the end of the barrel? Would you watch carefully to
      see that spent cases were actually being ejected from the rifle–to be
      certain it wasn’t a movie prop like may be used for training or would
      you simply run for your life? If you saw a total stranger lying on the
      floor near the “gunman”, would you roll that person over to examine their
      wounds and try to treat them, or run away and call for help when you
      got to safety outside? Suppose what you thought was blood seeping
      through their clothing was an exploding dye pack like used in action
      movies? What if the agency in question didn’t even tell the
      management of the public venue that they were having the training
      exercise? Suppose they never even told the media? Suppose you saw the
      alleged “relatives’ of some of those “killed” during the training exercise on
      TV news and they were crying, yet their eyes had no tears in them?
      Suppose the agency reported the “event” as if it were real…

  • As that prosecutor tweeted to Beto Orouke, something to the effect of, “My M-16 will be waiting for you”. AND TO THAT I ADD, “MOLON LABE”, we’ll also be waiting. Those ass hole are flirting with civil war if they try and do what that idiot Orouke has stated he’ll do if elected president.
    The democratic front runners are so stupid there isn’t a one who would be able to go up against Trump. Most have moved so far left, they are about to fall off the proverbial cliff.

    • Trump is not your friend. NOBODY in govt pays any attention to the restraints placed upon it by the Constitution INCLUDING TRUMP. (SEE WHO IS SUPPOSED TO ISSUE The budget, hint NOT the president. Unlawful FED still operating and charging us to create money (unnecessary and unlawful/treasonous) WHY ELSE WOULD HE APPOINT THE TREASONOUS ROTHSCHILD INC Bankruptcy EXEC WILBUR ROSS OR SOROS/GOLDMAN SACHS STOOGE MNUCHIN TO HIS CABINET? Or neocons like Bolton? SUPPORT RED Flag laws, decline to arrest treasonous govt officials, keep the occupation of Afghanistan where all the heroin comes from ….fueling our opiate epidemic. All trump did was persuade the right into being good little statists again after having given up on the criminal govt under Obongo. BOTH SIDES ARE FUNDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE SAME BANKS!!!!

      • No. Congress controls the purse strings per the US Constitution–they haven’t delivered a functional budget since the Obama Administration. Love it or hate it, the US Govt owes the Fed so many trillions of dollars it can’t simply break off the relationship as the Govt has NO cash of its own. If the Fed were to stop honoring checks written by the federal govt the nation would completely crash overnight. That’s not Trump’s fault–every prez since Reagan ran a deficit, and made no effort to correct the situation. The false pandemic–which Trump couldn’t have known was fake at the time–is what jacked up the deficit during his watch. Red Flag laws wouldn’t be so onerous if correctly structured so as not to violate anyone’s due process and not abused by anti-gun District Attorneys and Judges. A person who IS a demonstrable threat to him/herself or others needs to be restrained pending assessment of psychiatric condition. Had this been done the cases of Jared Loughner or Nikolas Cruz who had posted their intentions on line well in advance of their shooting sprees, a lot of lives would have been spared. Trump has recently ordered troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Your TDS is showing…

  • ????????⭐️⭐️???????? Hosea 8:7 For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk; the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up. KJV
    Meal = wheat/grain. Strangers = illegal aliens. They = socialists
    Hebrews 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. KJV
    Judgement day. Planet X Over Dorian
    It’s Wormwood that is causing all this wild weather not climate change. My opinion.
    Explanation here, starts when I mention Richard Coombs.
    A video response to Earthquake Prediction 2011 Jim Berkland – A Major Earthquake in North America Imminent
    Reminiscent of the ten plagues of Egypt. My opinion.

  • A minimum of 250 MILLION Innocents and Powerless were NOT MURDERED by the man with a gun or convenient terrorist, in the last century. They were SYSTEMATICALLY MURDERED by so-called Elected “LEADERS”, saying they had “Noble Intent” and “Good Will”, who began to see themselves as gods after they Registered and then CONFISCATED the “Arms” of the People, then having TOTAL POWER to do as they willed, choosing who would live and who would die.
    They began with CENSORSHIP and SURVEILLANCE of the People, INVADING their PRIVACY, then progressing to the Denigration and Weaponization of WORDS, SPEECH and RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. They used POLITICAL CORRECTNESS and PROPAGANDA to destroy TRUTH and JUSTICE, Infiltrating into the Education Systems to INDOCTRINATE the children.
    They then created FALSE ATTACKS to institute the removal of the basic RIGHTS of the People. They Demonized certain groups of People, and pitted “Differences” against each other – DIVIDING THE PEOPLE. These “LEADERS” did exactly what the DEMOCRAT PARTY, RINO’s, Mainstream Banker Media, FBI, CIA, NSA, FIVE EYES, etc. are doing today, and have done in the past 30-50 years within our Govt., and other Govts. around the world, to destroy them and mold them into their own scheme. SAME Program – SAME Results. SAME EVIL SATANIC ORIGIN.
    They now have a NEW TACTIC whereby they create MYRIAD LAWS to make everyone a Criminal, to remove their Rights of Self Defense. Then they change Laws that make it all right for them to LIE to the American People, as if this is some “Noble” act. ALL Liars are CRIMINALS and ENEMIES of the People that they SERVE. The People are not their SUBJECTS who serve them, which is what they now think and try to make the People believe.
    People are defeated when they turn from the Law of their God, or are manipulated to do so, as Baalim instructed the kings of old. Then Evil can take hold, Destroying and Corrupting the entire Society. It is called the “Demoralization of Mankind”. It is exactly what is being orchestrated in America today.
    Same as it ever was. Yet, as Generations come and go, the new are unaware of what has been, unto their demise. But even then, the powerful machine created by evil, somehow convinces People that up is down, and left is right. All having to do with turning their back on God, who would otherwise protect them and lead them to truth and discernment, for which they would not eventually be MURDERED en masse by so-called Good Willed “Common Sense””LEADERS”.
    By the Constitution and 2nd Amendment, which GOVERNS Congress and the President, NO Authority LAWFULLY exists to create ANY CODE or LAW against such. BY the PEOPLE, FOR the PEOPLE, is the LAW. BLOOD BOUGHT LAW. – Not “BY” Banker bought BS Politicians/TRAITORS.

  • Two thoughts

    In 1935, Sinclair Lewis authored his novel “It Can’t Happen Here” which forecast a fascist takeover of the US government. He was the first American to win the Nobel prize for literature, back in 1930. See the description and reviews of that book on Amazon:

    Then take a look at Jacob Hornberger’s article about how far we’ve already progressed down that road to tyranny that Selco so accurately and painfully describes — especially since the false flag operation of 9/11:


  • Lots of good points here. I spent a year in the Balkans and saw first hand what happens when a defenseless people are subject to assault by an armed enemy/army-police force. Britain has disarmed her populace and it would be very easy to force Joe Citizen into serfdom.. The British government has used the Army to subjugate rebellion in Britain itself. No reason they wouldn’t do it again. As for the US, we cannot wait for the signs that Selco has lined out. ALWAYS be prepared. NEVER count on the ‘common sense’ of our fellow citizens.

  • Actually, the S has already hit the fan in increments. Stuff that you’ve already posted somewhere may be what draws attention to you or adds you to a list. Add to that that there are commercial ways your name can wind up on a list. Purchase of an item that is targetted, Membership in an organization, being on email lists.

    This information is already available and since the Big Tech is on the opposite side of Gun owners, you can be assured that a trial run has been taken and a list begun ready for use.

    • You’re assuming we give a crap. MAYBE we’re already fed up past the point of no return and WANT the Nazi’s to out themselves on our doorstep. Can you think of a better way to identify them? And you have the advantage of knowing EXACTLY where they’re going to be when they do come. That is what I call a “prepper’s delight” !

      Use your imagination.

  • As I mentioned before, a friend of a friend’s husband who is medical personnel in a hospital did some whistleblowing on some bad practices of his fellow employees, This raised the alarm among the controlling peeps and he was seen as a troublemaker. it must’ve been his motorcycle that caused others to believe he was of a conservative leaning. So, he was reported to the police as someone who might cause trouble in the workplace. (The California Red Flag Law permits this kind of squealing.) A SWAT team descended on his home and forcibly removed all his guns. He’s suing the hospital. Hopefully he wins and gets his guns back.

    It’s possible that whistleblowing may also be a thing of the past if this guy doesn’t win.

    When corruption starts to outstrip the good and evil is entrenched in all our systems, we have SHTF. Time to go gray in every way we can think of without becoming black ourselves.

  • I considered selling my weapons back to the government, but after a background check and thorough investigation into the buyer, I determined that the buyer has a history of violence and is mentally unstable…to big a risk to everyone around it.
    Whenever they nasally whine “You don’t NEED a “Weapon of WAR”” read this to them:
    WE pay for THEIR prepping….. as they attack Our RIGHT to keep a semi-automatic rifle
    I’d like to point out …. In order to “feel safe” the politicians “need” 7,000+ nuclear warheads ,,, at least 11 aircraft carrier battle groups and hundreds more ships , how many multiBillion$ F35s, how many Troops “under arms” and tanks, tanks beyond counting. They employ inhumane ILLEGAL arms such as Depleted Uranium, White Phosphorous, and Napalm. The government is spending $700BILLION every year on GUNS. The Liars swear we are “imminent danger” of being overrun by Barbarian Hordes and that we should be terrified and give Them all the money they want, to buy every concievable weapon …..But we are “crazy” to want semiauto weapons to defend ourselves …….. then it surrounds it’s self with 24/7 ARMED bodyguards and WALLS, WALLS, WALLS for THEM, but you are a racist bigot for wanting a wall . …. and even THAT is not enough as they constantly tell they need MORE weapons and BIGGER weapons ….. then tells YOU that YOU are crazy for wanting semiauto weapons …… “they” have hidden bunkers, stocked with tons of food, medical supplies, equipment, all paid for by YOU, but you will not be welcome inside ….. but YOU are a NUT-CASE for prepping.
    Actually it just strikes me – — I wonder how many synagogues are well stocked shelters on YOUR TAXES? DHS has been pouring Your money into Jewish “security” leaving you as a Second Class Citizen who just gets and pays the Bills.
    Every year THEY are spending $23,400 (borrowed at interest) PER American on GUNS ….. but YOU are the crazy.
    Way back in 1992, Hurricane Andrew hit south Florida. FEMA was so slow and so ineffective in responding that Congress held an investigation. During FEMA testimony, it came out that 90% of FEMA’s budget did NOT go to disaster relief. Most went to “continuity of government programs”. In other words, it went to build and support the underground and isolated bunkers designed to provide a safe haven for the politically well connected. Has the allocation of funds changed for today’s FEMA? I have no idea, and with recent changes in accounting standards (FASB 56) it is now completely legal for agencies to flat out lie about where the money goes or even how much they spend.

  • It’s ALREADY started – the massacres the media turns into propaganda-fests have given the powers that be fuel to get “laws” in place to start disarming the populace.
    It’s hard to argue with dead children, and these senseless tragedies are weaponized against law abiding citizens. There has been a lot of chatter that at least some of them have been staged to generate maximum public outrage… certainly the information that has been publicized in MSM and the slant of the news coverage is geared for that.
    If you don’t want to lose your weapons, I would suggest that you hide them well and report them “stolen”.
    It sucks that we have to even think like this, but the way things are going, there will be a push for full disarmament of private citizens within the next five years… less depending on who wins the 2020 election.

    • “M”, you are correct. It has already started. America has Chinese troops sitting on our borders and multiple other countries have troops there and inside the country as well. Gun control legislation is just Congressmen being bribed by these other countries to soften up the target before they attack. They’re coming up from South and Central America in quantities that even the news media can’t hide.

      • Thank God the assault weapon ban and some other bills died in congress the other day, they were 7 votes short in passing.

  • Public opinion is the battle that has to be won if America is to avoid being slaughtered by the subversive forces that have taken over media and portions of government.
    When you meet a modern snowflake that wants to disarm those who disagree with the government, ask them this question and make it personal.
    “So if you are successful in disarming all of your fellow Americans who disagree with the government, what will you do when the government comes for you and attacks your house because you disagreed with the government? Do you think there will be anyone left to keep you from being attacked for what you say or believe when gun owners are all gone?”

  • If you ever have an opportunity at a town hall meeting or similar venue with publicity and politicians who support gun control, ask them this question in front of everybody.
    “Sir/Mam, considering that the last 17 genocides by governments of the last 100 years were all preceded by gun registration and confiscation, my question to you is why do you want to slaughter the American people by disarming them? Why do you hate America so much?”

  • Day 245 is the stupid Riechstang crap all leftist do when they want (in this case) your guns or be it something else.

    Don’t fall for it. if it’s so dangerous as they say you actually NEED to be armed.

    The only solution is to create the 2nd Amendment MILITIA. What the 2nd Amendment is really about. Your governor of EACH State must make sure each required and qualified citizen has weapons and ammo to FULFILL this amendment.

    But to my knowledge, NO GOVERNOR has done that. Neither has the NRA (Nobody Reads Amendment) even bothered to mention this.

    Keeping you scattered as armed citizens is NOT being well-regulated nor can it be called a militia leaving you vulnerable for gun CONFISCATION. Until the NRA (Nobody Reads Amendments) calls for this I would disregard them.

    So these two parties (Congogress and the NRA) are just playing you. One for power and self-importance and the other for money. Recent stories have come out how Pierre lives very lavishly with membership donations. I don’t agree with this.

    • Sure thing Blather. Put the Governor of each state in charge of the militia and tell everybody else that they are not allowed to own a gun because they are not part of the state militia. Then tell all the governors that the President is in charge of their state militias and they are subject to the latest legislation and Supreme Court decision. Hey now that sounds like a sure fire way to remain free. Gun free that is.
      Just centralize power and control and then marginalize anyone that acts independently. It’s the Communist way.

      • Why do you guys SEE-SAW with the first part then forget the second part then you remember the second part and forget the first part?

        Now I see why we don’t have a Militia. Just a very loose band of disorganized hee-haws who call themselves “armed citizens” with NO ONE in charge.

        Are you a brainwashed NRA (Nobody Reads Amendments) member?

          • Because it’s NOT the Militia of the 2nd Amendment which would OUTNUMBER the standing army and is for the express purpose for the “security of a free State” and “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;”

            That’s NOT mentioned for the army.

            This is LAZY thinking and making us susceptible to BIG government the opposite of what the Constitution is about – YOU!

    • Actually, Texas and a few other states have militias that are not subject to federal control. They are under the control of the state governor. These units are not the National Guard. Look up SDF

    • I disagree, you seem to buying into the skewed arguement it was meant for the state militia, As I recall, the people did not want to ratify because it was vague and they wanted a specific bill of rights for INDIVIDUALS that was the purpose also this garbage about the constitution being g a living document is ridiculous also if that was the case it would not have the provisions I. there for amendment the way they are, this is all just brainwashing hogwash and garbage in my opinion the criminals in DC are nothing but a bunch of useless leaches on society they produce absolutely zero for society, nothing and we are suppose to have a Republic not a tyrannical Democracy they brainwashed everyone into calling it, the founders knew all to well about the evils of democracies and how easy it is to manipulate them and they all turn into communism, marxism whatever you want to call it, look it up thats a fact

  • I think Selcos’ situation is entirely different then what would happen in the USA. He had to confront ethnic cleansing from several different races/religious beliefs. Plus the USA is huge compared to Bosnia Serbia Herz. Balkanization would occur before any confiscation would. He may have great info on survival after the fact but as far as how it would go down is a crap shoot.

  • “If you say “ I’ll defend my right to carry” then good luck with that. Because your right could be stripped down and taken away by the majority of people, and that opinion is being so carefully implanted in them right now by the media.”

    Truer words could not be spoken.

    Take for example the situation in San Francisco: even though open carry is the law of the land, you take your life into your hands to do so. The place is so swarming with anti-gun zealots that a person risks being attacked for exercising that right. A concealed carry license is almost impossible to obtain, unless one is a big name politician like Diane Feinstein (who conceal carries in her purse). Criminals don’t bother with the niceties of legality. Therefore a responsible citizen either goes without a weapon, or concealed carries without a license. Or one carries a weapon that isn’t a firearm.

    SHTF has already started, starting with false flag operations where innocents are murdered. They’re designed to disarm people. Those false flag operations are recognized when the official narratives pushed by mainstream media and government fall apart under the weight of witnesses and evidence, but the shameless government/media complex continue with their false propaganda.

  • Y’all will probably put up as much of a fight as yall did with bumpstocks. Where was all the spartan molon labe steppin on da snake then?
    Oh yeah they were all stepping over each other making videos and blogging about how easy it was to turn them I “so when we win the lawsuit” LOL.
    and just like that they were gone….

  • They do not have to come get your guns!!!! If they are outlawed and you are faced with a life or death situation where you have to use your gun to save your life or the life of a loved one, you will go to prison! This is some scary stuff.

  • Come on all you progressive Democrats, LEAD BY EXAMPLE!! DISARM ALL YOUR SECURITY DETAIL’S OF THEIR WEAPONS. What you won’t? I thought you were leaders…but I guess you are just scared bullies who think only they and their families are worth protecting.

    Oh! I see you think you are our betters, That doesn’t deserve an reply to bullies who have forgotten and refuse to follow their oath of office. Like you, the oath I took and live by has no expiration date, so coward up you bullies! !

  • While i agree with Selco and friends on about 95% of their advice and insights, i will disagree with them on this particular issue.
    This isn’t the Balkans…
    Or the Slovac region…
    Or the EU….
    There is a WHOLE different culture built around American gun ownership. America was FORGED in fire…
    And this right is also constitutionally enshrined. Congress, the SCOTUS and the executive DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY to simply null and void a constitutiinal right at whim.
    And frankly, NOR DO THEY HAVE THE MANPOWER to even begin THINKING about door to door harassment and confiscation. The American gun community is large, well armed and very formidable, and the dumbest thing the federal or state govts could do? Is to antagonize and provoke them into formally organizing.
    Fact…. All law enforcement local, state and federal? Total maybe 1.3 million souls. Formal American gun owners? Total about 130 million, and that doesn’t even include FAMILY MEMBERS that can shoot. So tack that number up to about 200 million. THEY ARE OUTNUMBERED BY ROUGHLY 199 TO ONE!!! Would you attack under those odds??? Hell no….
    Lastly… In 2013, Connecticut and New York tried a “register em or turn em in” initiative, and it failed abysmally.
    The non-compliance rate in CT? 94%!!! The govetnor then told the state police to go out and enforce the edict, and the CT state police refused. ALL 1257 of them! You see their problem yet?
    New York’s SAFE ACT? The non compliance rate was even worse, at 97%!!! The NY state police were smart though, and got in front of this…. They told Cuomo that if he signed the SAFE ACT into law, then they could do their OWN dirtywork. The state police were not going to TOUCH this… Rightly so! It kept em breathing.
    Now mind you… CT and NY are 2 of the most liberal states in the nation and even THEY couldn’t make this happen! So what are the chances Biden and the BATFE are going to force a confiscation upon roughly 200 million pissed off, defiant, angry gun owners against their will?
    Add to that all of the rioting, looting, murder and arson we’ve recently witnessed this summer and beyond, with police STANDING DOWN, IGNORING THEIR OATHS OF SERVICE like cowards to protect their pensions and salaries….. NO GUN OWNER WORTH HIS SALT WILL BE HANDING OVER JACK SHEE-IT TO GOVT.
    Again, American gun culture is a whole different animal than the rest of the world is used to.
    Govts local state and federal, bureaucrats and authorities of all stripes, police, have all IRREFUTABLY PROVEN that when the chips are down, they cannot be counted on.
    Remember… In America? There will BE NO confiscation without CITIZEN COOPERATION. Not if they wish to avoid a bloodbath that they will lose handily.

    • Please read “The Digital Gulag: Why Team Tyranny Won’t Need Door-Kickers to Enforce the Coming Gun Bans”, by Matt Bracken at the American Partisan website. It outlines quite chillingly how they can destroy your life without ever kicking your door in, should you choose to resist confiscation/buyback/red flag tactics.

  • I have thought personally that the SHTF long ago. It was just in slow-motion and practically unnoticeable… totally unnoticeable to the majority, and I said so… maybe even on here. I stopped giving prep advice, too. Most didn’t want to hear it, anyway.
    About the only way a rogue government could disarm most citizens will be the citizen’s life-long indoctrination to be law-abiding and always do what the law says. They will complain about it, but in the end will hand them over because they are frightened to do otherwise. They don’t have the criminal mind-set and don’t want to be labeled as a criminal and all the trouble that could bring to their orderly existence. Putting up with a little more tyranny is easier for them. They are, after all, good sheep. Criminals, however, could give a crap. They’ll keep their arms. As long as there is money to be made there will always be a market for firearms. Anyone who wants a gun will be able to get a gun. But it is likely the desperate and/or the risk-takers who will squirrel firearms away someplace known only to them and maybe some close family members. Bottom line is that the only way the rogues can accomplish disarmament is to scare citizens enough that most comply. They don’t have the resources to go door to door and will depend on snitches in order to conduct a few high-profile raids to keep the fear up.

    I’m reminded of something said by a resistance fighter in WWII France. It went like this… “With a knife you can get a pistol. With a pistol you can get a rifle. With a rifle you can get your freedom”. I also like to go back and read something Solzhenitsyn wrote:
    “During an arrest, you think since you are not guilty, how can they arrest you? Why should you run away? And how can you resist right then? After all, you’ll only make your situation worse; you will make it more difficult for them to sort out the mistake.
    And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family?
    Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?
    The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! We did not love freedom enough. Every man always has handy a dozen glib little reasons why he is right not to sacrifice himself.”

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